Re: [AMBER] about mmgbsa method

From: Dr. Anselm Horn via AMBER <amber.ambermd.org>
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2022 09:41:29 +0100

Laura,

I can only guess what happens during your simulation, when looking at
your plot.

Maybe the organic ligand leaves its binding pocket, tumbles around the
protein and then occasionally leaves the simulation box and enters from
the other side (cf the high RMSD jumps). But you have to inspect the
trajectories visually to see what's going on.

Clearly, you cannot use such a simulation for MMPBSA-analyses, since one
of the prerequesites for this type of computation is that the ligands
stays bound. (Of course, you could technically run the calculations via
the the MMPBSA scripts; but in the singular energy values you'd see no
convergence of the energetics, on the contrary.)

Maybe this helps.

Best,

Anselm

Bioinformatik | NHR.FAU
Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg (FAU)
Germany


Am 02.11.2022 um 21:39 schrieb laura zhang:
> Hi Anselm,
>
> Thank you very much for the reply, which is very helpful. Following your
> instruction, I unwrapped the trajectories using autoimage. Most of the
> trajectories were fixed except one, which still showed jumping as the
> RMSD result figure shown below. I am wondering what is the reason for
> it, and how to fix it. Thank you!
>
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Laura
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Dr. Anselm Horn via AMBER <amber.ambermd.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 2, 2022 11:41
> *To:* amber.ambermd.org <amber.ambermd.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [AMBER] about mmgbsa method
>  
> Laura,
>
> if your organic ligand left its binding pocket during the simulation,
> this is no "PBC effect", but the result of your simulation. (If this is
> unexpected or not in accordance with experimental findings, maybe your
> setup or your ligand parameters are not right.)
> Perhaps you could use cpptraj to unwrap or autoimage your trajectory.
>
> If VMD displays "broken" bonds in a structure, it may just be a
> visualization artifact, because the distance between the two atoms is
> larger than the program-specific built-in cutoff for a bond. This does
> not mean, that the bond broke and maybe formed again.
>
> Concerning a MMPBSA analysis:
> This post-production analysis makes only sense for a valid trajectory,
> i.e. when the ligand stays intact and bound to the protein.
>
> Maybe this helps.
>
> Best,
>
> Anselm
>
> Bioinformatik  |  NHR.FAU
> Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg (FAU
> Germany
>
>
> Am 02.11.2022 um 16:19 schrieb laura zhang via AMBER:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I did AMBER simulations on a protein binding with a small organic molecule.  Checking the trajectory, I can see that the small organic compounds had PBC effect that it departured from the protein.  However, when I used pbc unwrap in vmd program to unwrap the trajectory, the small compound side chains broke here and there. I
> am wondering how I can unwrap the amber trajectory correctly.
>> Another question is, under such kind of condition, when I did mmgbsa binding energy calculation on the protein binding with the small organic molecule, will the result be reliable? what should I do in order to get reliable binding energy result? Thank you very much.
>>
>> Laura
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