Re: [AMBER] High PB deltaG values from MMPBSA.py calculation

From: Ray Luo, Ph.D. <ray.luo.uci.edu>
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 10:26:51 -0800

Hi Anu,

How about you email me, OFF THE LIST, all the MMPBSA files, i.e.
input, prmtop, mdcrd files etc. Please email files for the complex
only with three snapshots.

All the best,
Ray
--
Ray Luo, Ph.D.
Professor
Biochemistry, Molecular Biophysics, Chemical Physics,
Chemical and Biomedical Engineering
University of California, Irvine, CA 92697-3900
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:28 AM, anu chandra <anu80125.gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Ray,
>
> Thanks for the reply. I am using AmberTools 15 and version 14.0 of
> MMPBSA.py for the calculation.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> |*MMPBSA.py Version=14.0*
> |Complex topology file:           COMPLEX.top
> |Receptor topology file:          RECEPTOR.top
> |Ligand topology file:            LIGAND.top
> |Initial mdcrd(s):                md1.nc
> |
> |Receptor mask:                  ":1-294,527-545"
> |Ligand mask:                    ":295-526"
> |
> |Calculations performed using 63 complex frames.
> |Poisson Boltzmann calculations performed using internal PBSA solver in
> sander.
> |
> |All units are reported in kcal/mole.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Many thanks
>
> Anu
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Ray Luo, Ph.D. <ray.luo.uci.edu> wrote:
>
>> Looks like your protein/complex EPB's are very small. Which version
>> are you using for these runs?
>>
>> All the best,
>> Ray
>> --
>> Ray Luo, Ph.D.
>> Professor
>> Biochemistry, Molecular Biophysics, Chemical Physics,
>> Chemical and Biomedical Engineering
>> University of California, Irvine, CA 92697-3900
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 6:48 AM, anu chandra <anu80125.gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Dear Jason,
>> >
>> > Many thanks fro the reply. The solvation energy shows positive values in
>> PB
>> > calculations as compared to GB ones. Below I just copied the results fro
>> > both GB and PB calculations. Both calculation involves same system.
>> Please
>> > have a look.
>> >
>> > *GB calculation*
>> >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > GENERALIZED BORN:
>> >
>> > Complex:
>> > Energy Component            Average              Std. Dev.   Std. Err. of
>> > Mean
>> >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > VDWAALS                  -4458.8179               34.8945
>> > 0.9870
>> > EEL                     -39472.0783              118.8852
>> > 3.3626
>> > EGB                      -6085.3517               95.2844
>> > 2.6951
>> > ESURF                      198.0542                2.8368
>> > 0.0802
>> >
>> > G gas                   -43930.8962              118.3565
>> > 3.3476
>> > G solv                   *-5887.2975*               94.5603
>> > 2.6746
>> >
>> > TOTAL                   -49818.1937               66.1992
>> > 1.8724
>> >
>> >
>> > Receptor:
>> > Energy Component            Average              Std. Dev.   Std. Err. of
>> > Mean
>> >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > VDWAALS                  -2515.7191               28.2857
>> > 0.8000
>> > EEL                     -22405.2101               93.6831
>> > 2.6498
>> > EGB                      -3492.5229               74.4855
>> > 2.1068
>> > ESURF                      120.8083                2.1446
>> > 0.0607
>> >
>> > G gas                   -24920.9292               91.5239
>> > 2.5887
>> > G solv                   *-3371.7147*               73.8630
>> > 2.0892
>> >
>> > TOTAL                   -28292.6438               52.9167
>> > 1.4967
>> >
>> >
>> > Ligand:
>> > Energy Component            Average              Std. Dev.   Std. Err. of
>> > Mean
>> >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > VDWAALS                  -1805.9229               18.5645
>> > 0.5251
>> > EEL                     -16332.3663               76.2526
>> > 2.1567
>> > EGB                      -3402.4007               63.4785
>> > 1.7954
>> > ESURF                       97.6837                1.7862
>> > 0.0505
>> >
>> > G gas                   -18138.2892               77.1853
>> > 2.1831
>> > G solv                   *-3304.7170*               62.6905
>> > 1.7732
>> >
>> > TOTAL                   -21443.0062               38.2786
>> > 1.0827
>> >
>> >
>> > Differences (Complex - Receptor - Ligand):
>> > Energy Component            Average              Std. Dev.   Std. Err. of
>> > Mean
>> >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > VDWAALS                   -137.1759                7.7082
>> > 0.2180
>> > EEL                       -734.5019               62.3795
>> > 1.7644
>> > EGB                        809.5720               59.2361
>> > 1.6755
>> > ESURF                      -20.4378                0.9336
>> > 0.0264
>> >
>> > DELTA G gas               -871.6779               62.8862
>> > 1.7787
>> > DELTA G solv               *789.1342 *              58.7555
>> > 1.6619
>> >
>> > DELTA TOTAL                -82.5437                8.5046
>> > 0.2405
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > *PB calculation*
>> >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > POISSON BOLTZMANN:
>> >
>> > Complex:
>> > Energy Component            Average              Std. Dev.   Std. Err. of
>> > Mean
>> >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > VDWAALS                  -4453.0817               34.5145
>> > 4.3484
>> > EEL                     -39464.0991              122.1391
>> > 15.3881
>> > EPB                        -88.8720               15.7579
>> > 1.9853
>> > ENPOLAR                    126.1209                1.1655
>> > 0.1468
>> >
>> > G gas                   -43917.1808              118.3991
>> > 14.9169
>> > G solv                      *37.2490 *              15.9197
>> > 2.0057
>> >
>> > TOTAL                   -43879.9318              114.0133
>> > 14.3643
>> >
>> >
>> > Receptor:
>> > Energy Component            Average              Std. Dev.   Std. Err. of
>> > Mean
>> >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > VDWAALS                  -2512.3457               27.6907
>> > 3.4887
>> > EEL                     -22399.5909               97.4659
>> > 12.2795
>> > EPB                        -57.9075               18.4141
>> > 2.3200
>> > ENPOLAR                     80.7826                0.8461
>> > 0.1066
>> >
>> > G gas                   -24911.9366               92.5354
>> > 11.6584
>> > G solv                      *22.8751  *             18.3217
>> > 2.3083
>> >
>> > TOTAL                   -24889.0615               86.9242
>> > 10.9514
>> >
>> >
>> > Ligand:
>> > Energy Component            Average              Std. Dev.   Std. Err. of
>> > Mean
>> >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > VDWAALS                  -1805.0607               19.7069
>> > 2.4828
>> > EEL                     -16330.9144               85.1027
>> > 10.7219
>> > EPB                       -105.9672               10.5846
>> > 1.3335
>> > ENPOLAR                     61.2667                0.9436
>> > 0.1189
>> >
>> > G gas                   -18135.9751               85.9593
>> > 10.8298
>> > G solv                   *  -44.7004*               10.7940
>> > 1.3599
>> >
>> > TOTAL                   -18180.6755               85.1325
>> > 10.7257
>> >
>> >
>> > Differences (Complex - Receptor - Ligand):
>> > Energy Component            Average              Std. Dev.   Std. Err. of
>> > Mean
>> >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > VDWAALS                   -135.6753                6.0819
>> > 0.7662
>> > EEL                       -733.5938               63.2610
>> > 7.9701
>> > EPB                         75.0027               20.2190
>> > 2.5474
>> > ENPOLAR                    -15.9284                0.5842
>> > 0.0736
>> > EDISPER                      0.0000                0.0000
>> > 0.0000
>> >
>> > DELTA G gas               -869.2691               63.3047
>> > 7.9756
>> > DELTA G solv               * 59.0743*               20.1582
>> > 2.5397
>> >
>> > DELTA TOTAL               -810.1948               72.0715
>> > 9.0802
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Many Thanks in Advance
>> > Anu
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Jason Swails <jason.swails.gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 8:59 AM, anu chandra <anu80125.gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Dear Amber users,
>> >> >
>> >> > I am working with a dimeric protein system and  I am trying to
>> calculate
>> >> > the binding free energy change between two monomeric units in presence
>> >> and
>> >> > absence of bound ligand, using MMPBSA.py. Though the calculation
>> finished
>> >> > successfully, I find a huge difference between the GB and PB deltaG
>> >> values
>> >> > for the same system.
>> >> >
>> >> > In presnce of ligand, the  GB value is -67.17 and the calculate PB
>> value
>> >> > for the same system is -675.37.  Similarly, in absence of ligand,
>> the  GB
>> >> > value is -82.54 and the calculate PB value for the same system is
>> >> -810.19.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Something seems wrong with these numbers.  GB and PB should be
>> relatively
>> >> close in general, and should certainly not differ by an order of
>> >> magnitude...
>> >>
>> >> The GB results seem typical of MMPBSA results.  PB does not.
>> >>
>> >> HTH,
>> >> Jason
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jason M. Swails
>> >> BioMaPS,
>> >> Rutgers University
>> >> Postdoctoral Researcher
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