Hi Ross,
Apologies for the late reply.  Thanks for giving this a shot on your
machine..
I think I'll pass on the 10-year wait :).  I was actually running this using
2 processors on a supercomputer cluster, rather than on a desktop, so I
don't think computer memory makes a difference(?).  Your suggestions about
setting ntpr=1 to and running it using pmemd is a good idea.  Can I try
using pmemd while increasing the number of processes when I run it on a
cluster?
In the meantime, I have resorted to running it in implicit solvent and the
simulations seem to be proceeding just fine.  As another alternative I'm
thinking about coarse-graining the PEG polymer while retaining the explicit
solvent molecules (coarse-grained as well, of course).  What do you think?
Thanks for the help,
Lili
2008/12/18 Ross Walker <ross.rosswalker.co.uk>
>  Hi Lili,
>
>
>
> So I tried this out on my machine and have a number of comments. Firstly
> this is a HUGE system, 673,130 atoms. Running on 2 processors of my desktop
> this requires 2.6GB of memory, so unless the machine you are running this on
> has around 4GB of memory the code will be swapping like crazy which means it
> likely isn't hung it is just taking a very long time. If you wait 10 years
> or so it may actually finish. The main point is that for a simulation this
> large you will need much more than just a dual processor machine to run it.
> Firstly a advise you to use PMEMD in place of sander.MPI, this will run much
> faster and require a lot less memory (as you increase the number of
> processors).
>
>
>
> You might also want to try setting ntpr=1 - this way you will be able to
> see that the minimization hasn't stopped at 500 steps but is in fact just
> running very slowly.
>
>
>
> Also a few comments on your input file:
>
>
>
> water minimization
>
>  &cntrl
>
>   imin=1, ntmin=1, nmropt=0,
>
>   maxcyc=2000, ncyc=500, drms=0.1
>
>   ntx=1, irest=0,
>
>   ntpr=500, ntwr=500, iwrap=1,
>
>   ntf=1, ntb=1, cut=8.0, nsnb=10,
>
>   igb=0,
>
>   ibelly=0, ntr=1,
>
>   restraint_wt=300.0, restraintmask=':PEG'
>
>  &end
>
>
>
> nsnb=10, this has no effect on its own, sander and pmemd will build the
> list automatically as needed.
>
>
>
> restraint_wt=300.0 - this is very large. It is probably okay for the
> minimization but not for when you do MD.
>
>
>
> You will also have to use the 'old' style of specifying restraints when you
> use pmemd.
>
>
>
> Good luck,
>
> Ross
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-amber.scripps.edu [mailto:owner-amber.scripps.edu] *On
> Behalf Of *Lili Peng
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:36 AM
> *To:* amber.scripps.edu
> *Subject:* Re: AMBER: AMBER minimization problems
>
>
>
> Hi Ross,
>
> It just stops after the 2nd nstep and the minimization doesn't proceed any
> further. I'm attaching my minimization output for your reference.
>
> My input script was:
> /sander -O -i min_wat.in -o peg5k_wat_min_vac.out -p peg5k_wat.top -c
> peg5k_wat.crd -r peg5k_wat_min_vac.rst -ref peg5k_wat.crd
>
> My .crd and .top files are too large to attach to this email, so I've
> uploaded them to my web server here:
> http://bioengineering.ucsd.edu/~lpeng/peg/peg5k_wat.crd<http://bioengineering.ucsd.edu/%7Elpeng/peg/peg5k_wat.crd>
> http://bioengineering.ucsd.edu/~lpeng/peg/peg5k_wat.top<http://bioengineering.ucsd.edu/%7Elpeng/peg/peg5k_wat.top>
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Lili
>
> 2008/12/17 Ross Walker <ross.rosswalker.co.uk>
>
> Hi Lili,
>
>
>
> What do you mean by 'ends'? Do you get any further output? Any error
> messages of any kind? It would also be helpful to see your input file.
>
>
>
> All the best
>
> Ross
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-amber.scripps.edu [mailto:owner-amber.scripps.edu] *On
> Behalf Of *Lili Peng
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:14 PM
> *To:* amber.scripps.edu
> *Subject:* AMBER: AMBER minimization problems
>
>
>
> Hi AMBER,
>
> I'm having trouble minimizing a 5000 Dalton polyethylene glycol molecule
> solvated in a TIP3PBOX 15 water molecules.  The output file I get ends after
> the 2nd nstep of 500 (shown below).  This is after I've vacuumed minimized
> my molecule (and then solvated it in water).  I've attached my water
> minimization file input file.  Do anyone know what the problem could be?
>
> Thanks,
> Lili
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    4.  RESULTS
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>  ---------------------------------------------------
>  APPROXIMATING switch and d/dx switch using CUBIC SPLINE INTERPOLATION
>  using   5000.0 points per unit in tabled values
>  TESTING RELATIVE ERROR over r ranging from 0.0 to cutoff
> | CHECK switch(x): max rel err =   0.2738E-14   at   2.422500
> | CHECK d/dx switch(x): max rel err =   0.8314E-11   at   2.736960
>  ---------------------------------------------------
> | Local SIZE OF NONBOND LIST =   64267381
> | TOTAL SIZE OF NONBOND LIST =  130524253
>
>
>    NSTEP       ENERGY          RMS            GMAX         NAME    NUMBER
>       1      -2.0703E+06     1.2881E+01     4.6850E+01     O      255159
>
>  BOND    =       16.4676  ANGLE   =        8.8005  DIHED      =
> 158.2966
>  VDWAALS =   255110.9185  EEL     = -2325481.7410  HBOND      =
> 0.0000
>  1-4 VDW =      105.8433  1-4 EEL =     -249.6019  RESTRAINT  =
> 0.0000
>
>
>    NSTEP       ENERGY          RMS            GMAX         NAME    NUMBER
>     500      -2.6528E+06     9.0587E-01     4.5299E+00     H1     309256
>
>  BOND    =   182580.9181  ANGLE   =        4.6033  DIHED      =
> 157.3146
>  VDWAALS =   382897.9872  EEL     = -3218340.8995  HBOND      =
> 0.0000
>  1-4 VDW =      103.2430  1-4 EEL =     -249.2364  RESTRAINT  =
> 3.5502
>  EAMBER  = -2652846.0697
>
>
>
>
>
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