Re: [AMBER] Help needed with thermodynamic integration: Collision of cations in binding energy calculation

From: He, Amy via AMBER <amber.ambermd.org>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2023 16:27:06 +0000

Hi Mei,

I am doing very similar calculations as you do, and I have the same problem. I hope others on this mailing list can help us.

I feel the biggest problem is that the cation is 100% mobile (not constrained by any type of bonded interaction) and very skinny, so mine is just stuck in the cluster of softcore atoms. In that situation, when lambda approaches 1, the van der Waals energy becomes extremely high.

I think the transformation of the cation could be buffered by a water. I learned from some people that when they let a Na+ disappear, in exchange they will put a water back. But water is much larger than Na+, so I’m also not sure whether the van der Waals interaction will be underestimated in that way.

I have experimented with many different “transformations” since I need to let a Na+ go for the neutrality of the system.. the van der Waals energy is always problematic for me whenever the ion is involved. But maybe I’m not using the best mixing scheme. My lambda windows are linearly spaced and I use the default alpha and beta in Amber 20 for sander.MPI.

I look forward to hearing from you and others opinions on this..


Bests,
Amy



From: Mei Kevin via AMBER <amber.ambermd.org>
Date: Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 12:06 PM
To: AMBER Mailing List <amber.ambermd.org>
Subject: [AMBER] Help needed with thermodynamic integration: Collision of cations in binding energy calculation
Dear AMBER users,

I hope this email finds you well. I am currently using the thermodynamic integration module implemented in AMBER 20 to calculate the absolute binding energy of a cation to a protein pocket. To achieve this, I am attempting to let one cation inside the pocket vanish while simultaneously letting the one in the bulk appear. I am using a harmonic potential to restrain the pocket-located ion and a softcore potential to smooth the van der Waals energy.

However, I have encountered a problem. When I checked the snapshots of the lambda=0.240452 run, I observed that the two cations have strangely collided together. The cation in the bulk moved inside the pocket, and they are now only 1.1 Å apart. I am concerned that when lambda reaches 1, the ion that should have been in the bulk may become stuck and unable to diffuse into the bulk, which is incorrect.

I would greatly appreciate your help in determining if this phenomenon is normal in TI simulations, or if I have made some errors. Here are the TI parameters I am currently using:

icfe=1
clambda=0.240452
timask1=":913.Na+"
timask2=":914.Na+"
ifsc=1
scmask1=":913.Na+"
scmask2=":914.Na+"
gti_chg_keep=0
ntf=1
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