Re: [AMBER] new amber mailing list for beginner questions/mailing list for advanced users&bug reports

From: Paul Westphälinger <>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 12:18:07 +0100

Hallo Jason,

the problem is, that I am not interested in tracking down who is
resposible for working on a bug, if I find one I want a place to publish
it and be my work is not just ignored.

This has been a problem for several members of my group.



Am 26.11.18 um 17:44 schrieb Jason Swails:
> Hi Paul,
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 4:15 AM Paul Westphälinger <
>> wrote:
>> Hallo dear Mr. Case and everybody,
>> my question is simple, would it be possible to create an amber
>> mailinglist strictly for questions about tutorial and installation as
>> well as other questions about how to use the program?
> My activity on this list has scaled back drastically since I stepped away
> from my role with Amber, but while active I read most (to all) of the
> messages coming over the mailing list. There are still people that do.
> While this idea has appeal, and other projects actually have something like
> this, I doubt the traffic volume over this list justifies splitting off yet
> another email subscription.
> There is already a (very low-traffic) developer list for communication
> specifically regarding Amber development. This list typically sees no more
> than 5 or so threads started per day, peaking at maybe 20 total messages.
> But a decent mail client will group all emails on the same thread together,
> making threads you're uninterested in pretty easy to ignore. I never
> really had much trouble wading through all of the emails pretty quickly.
>> My reasoning is as follows: I like to stay informed about bugs features
>> and other important topics concerning amber or MD in general, but my
>> inbox is full of questions about compiling amber and why something in a
>> tutorial does not work. (example from today: "Hi I want to download
>> latest force field. (GAFF). Please provide the link to download. With
>> regards ...")
>> From my experience trying to report bugs in amber, I also get the
>> impression that developers probably don't pay a lot of attention to the
>> mailing list, simply because of the amount of this kind of beginner
>> questions makes it very hard to differentiate between important messages
>> and the rest. Wouldn't it be sensible to split these two topics into two
>> mailing lists?
> A few observations here:
> - While there are a fair number of active developers, there is typically
> between 0 and 1 people responsible for particular pieces of
> code/funtionalities (much of the code has no 'dedicated' maintainer
> actively working on that code). The lack of developer responses to many
> questions is probably unrelated to the beginner traffic on this list. It's
> probably more related to the fact that the person with the required
> expertise isn't in the habit of responding to the list -- something that is
> unlikely to change if we add a smaller list.
> - 'Good' or interesting questions on the Amber list take more time to
> research and answer than wading through all the emails sent in a day. For
> instance, this response has already taken me more time to write than it
> would've taken me to read all of the threads this past.
> - The activity on the Amber-Developer list pretty much mirror the activity
> here. The people that respond there to technical questions are basically
> the same as those that respond here, and that list often goes weeks with no
> traffic at all. For example, the last message on that list was on November
> 13.
> All the best,
> Jason

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