Thanks, Malkeet! I dad a quote from Exxact but the university turned down
the request to buy anything other than some agreed machines from Dell!
Best,
Mish
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 10:09 AM, malkeet singh Bahia <msbahia17.gmail.com>
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> Hello Mish!
>
> Have a look at this, if it would be helpful.
>
> http://ambermd.org/gpus/recommended_hardware.htm#exxact
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> On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 at 11:54 mish <smncbr.gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Many thanks to everyone for the kind advice.
> >
> > I already had off the table discussion with the concerned people about
> > putting-in GPUs on my own, but that is a risky way to go. Dell is
> offering
> > them additional discounts, and 2 years of additional warranty in all the
> > machines. I (and also University) may have issues if Dell figures will it
> > out when repairing.
> >
> > I am also afraid that it may be possible to figure it out easily (through
> > logs) that which components were being used at the time of ( or caused)
> > crash!
> >
> > But many thanks Ross, I would settle this with P4000 as of now.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mish
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:13 PM, James Kress <jimkress_58.kressworks.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > In the 30 years I have been dealing with Dell, and many other vendors,
> > the
> > > mantra is always the same. I.e. you may put the foreign components
> into
> > > the
> > > computer your purchase/ lease from us. However, we will not provide
> > > support
> > > (i.e. including warranty) for your SYSTEM for problems involving/
> caused
> > by
> > > the foreign components you have installed. They will provide support
> for
> > > the unmodified system.
> > >
> > > My comment was just a warning so you do not get burned if something
> goes
> > > wrong with the modified SYSTEM.
> > >
> > > You can believe or ignore other's opinions. The choice is yours.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ross Walker <ross.rosswalker.co.uk>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 2:54 PM
> > > To: AMBER Mailing List <amber.ambermd.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [AMBER] Amber18 on NVIDIA Quadro Cards
> > >
> > > You do not invalidate your warranty with Dell by placing 1080TI cards
> in
> > > their workstations. You just don't inherit the Dell warranty onto the
> > > 1080TI
> > > cards.
> > >
> > > > On Aug 8, 2018, at 1:48 PM, David Cerutti <dscerutti.gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Agreed. While GTX-1080Ti has long been the price point for
> > > > simulations, Dell's going to bite you back if you start doing things
> to
> > > their machines.
> > > > The contract that locks you into Dell is probably built on incentives
> > > > like discounts and a deluxe warranty, which you will be forfeiting if
> > > > you change the hardware (or OS). I'd talk to your acquisitions
> people
> > > > (start with your department administrator, ask him or her who to
> speak
> > > > to, and go from there). See If you can get a special dispensation
> and
> > > > start constructing your own machine. Gaming systems companies will
> > > > build you a desktop with dual GTX-1080Ti cards no problem, but they
> > > > may be politically impossible for your acquisitions department to do
> > > business with.
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 1:23 PM James Kress
> > > > <jimkress_58.kressworks.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> "buy a couple of 1080TIs on Amazon and put those in in its place"
> > > >>
> > > >> Be careful. Dell will probably not support these cards and their
> > > >> implementation. You should contact Dell and get clarification of
> how
> > > >> adding these cards will affect your warranty and service contracts.
> > > >>
> > > >> Jim Kress
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Ross Walker <ross.rosswalker.co.uk>
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 12:55 PM
> > > >> To: AMBER Mailing List <amber.ambermd.org>
> > > >> Subject: Re: [AMBER] Amber18 on NVIDIA Quadro Cards
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Mish,
> > > >>
> > > >> Amber will run fine on those Quadro card. A P4000 will be about
> > > >> halfway between a GTX1070 and a GTX1060 in terms of speed. So not
> > > >> great considering what they cost. I'd guesstimate about 300 ns/day
> > > >> for DHFR NVE 4fs on a
> > > >> P4000
> > > >> - so about half the speed, maybe a little less of a P6000 / 1080TI.
> > > >>
> > > >> If your IT department are forcing you to buy Dell then the best
> > > >> option is to buy it with the cheapest graphics card you can, throw
> > > >> that out when it arrives, buy a couple of 1080TIs on Amazon and put
> > > >> those in in it's place.
> > > >> Just make sure the power supply is beefy enough and there are enough
> > > >> open PCIe X16 slots in the machine.
> > > >>
> > > >> All the best
> > > >> Ross
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Aug 8, 2018, at 11:51 AM, mish <smncbr.gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Dear all
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Just in case some is using NVIDIA Quadro P2000/P4000 cards, I want
> > > >>> to ask if pmemd.cuda can run on NVIDIA Quadro P2000/P4000(8GB, 4DP
> > > >>> (7X20T)
> > > >> cards?
> > > >>> If yes, how slow these can be compared to Quadro P6000 (~ 600
> ns/day
> > > >>> on ~23K atoms)?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> We are bound to buy a machine from DELL only, and they can not
> offer
> > > >>> a workstation with GeForce cards as of now.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> In general, which Quadro can be a reasonable choice for Amber18 in
> > > >>> this
> > > >>> GTX-1080 budget?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Best,
> > > >>> Mish
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