at do you mean by "
I assigned the charges using the AMBER 99SB FF"
There is no succinic acid in FF99SB.
adrian
On 10/4/15 5:42 PM, Rahul Ramesh wrote:
> Hello Jason
> I'm trying to simulate a cellulosic molecule with a succinic group. ( This
> is my model compound as I am going to simulate a larger system in future )
> I assigned the charges using the AMBER 99SB FF. I performed Thermodynamic
> Integration of this structure and obtained a value of -25 kcal/mol. Since I
> wanted to confirm the value of this del G ref against the pKa , I performed
> a CpHMD at pH = pKa. I expected the system to be protonated/ deprotonated
> 50 % of the time. But I end up getting 100% protonation. I used the same
> set of parameters for both TI and CpHMD.
> I went through the mdout file and the EEL , EGB and 1-4 EEL are not
> convincing.
>
> NSTEP =   125000   TIME(PS) =    2250.000  TEMP(K) =   237.22  PRESS =
> 0.0
>
>   Etot   =      -262.6830  EKtot   =        24.2773  *EPtot      =
> -286.9603*
>
>   BOND   =        21.5394  ANGLE   =        26.4520  DIHED      =
> 24.9527
>
>   1-4 NB =         6.7956  *1-4 EEL =       -89.1130*  VDWAALS    =
> -3.9488
>
>   *EELEC  =       -25.1198  EGB     =      -248.5186*  RESTRAINT  =
> 0.0000
>
> The electrostatic energy is positive if you subtract 1-4 EEL from EELEC.
> I'm thinking of a reason as to why the electrostatic energy is really low
> and 1-4 EEL and EGB is really high?
>
> I compared my system (cellulosic molecule attached to a succinic group) to
> a succinic acid  (COOHCH2CH2COOH) system. Basically I simulated just the
> side group of the cellulosic molecule using the AMBER99SB FF. I followed
> the same procedure as above and I was able to get 50 % protonation at pH =
> pKa and a del G ref as -22 kcal/mol ( pH = 4.2).
>
> I tried comparing the mdout file for succinic acid to the above mdout file
>
> *Protonated State for Succinic Acid*
>
> NSTEP =   999600   TIME(PS) =    3999.200  TEMP(K) =   545.62  PRESS =
> 0.0
>
>   Etot   =       -63.8361  EKtot   =        19.5165  *EPtot      =
> -83.3526*
>
>   BOND   =         2.1652  ANGLE   =         8.1213  DIHED      =
> 7.6514
>
>   1-4 NB =         0.8964  *1-4 EEL =        19.4734*  VDWAALS    =
> -0.8920
>
>   *EELEC  =       -93.5325  EGB     =       -27.2358*  RESTRAINT  =
> 0.0000
> *Deprotonated State for Succinic Acid*
>
> NSTEP =   999550   TIME(PS) =    3999.100  TEMP(K) =   438.95  PRESS =
> 0.0
>
>   Etot   =       -88.1985  EKtot   =        15.7011 * EPtot      =
> -103.8997*
>
>   BOND   =         2.2672  ANGLE   =        10.6449  DIHED      =
> 8.7225
>
>   1-4 NB =         0.6721  *1-4 EEL =        21.5060 * VDWAALS    =
> -1.0602
>
>   *EELEC  =       -55.1840  EGB     =       -91.4680  *RESTRAINT  =
> 0.0000
> For the Succinic Acid case , EELEC is negative and different between the
> EPtot of the protonated and deprotonated is approximately the Del G ref. I
> was expecting the same behavior for my cellulosic molecule attached to
> succinic group.
> Could you comment on the reason for EELEC being positive in the first case
> and high value of 1-4 EEL and EGB
>
> Thank You
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