Re: [AMBER] Glycam06g and ff99SB cause the difference of DIHED (not attributed to the scaling factor)

From: Lachele Foley (Lists) <"Lachele>
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:56:41 -0400

You have to use a patched AT 1.5, and use *tleap* not sleap.


On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 2:15 AM, mish <smncbr.gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Ken:
>
> Which version of AmberTools you are using  ? There was a bug in sleap which
> has been patched few months back. You can have a look:
> http://archive.ambermd.org/201103/0307.html
> Have you tried to compare parm file created by both ways  ?
>
> ..mish
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:50 AM, <d944286.oz.nthu.edu.tw> wrote:
>
>> Dear amber users:
>>
>> My system consists of a dimer-protein and one sugar in 10A water box, and
>> the sugar dosent has any covalent bond with the protein. I met a problem of
>> huge different DIHED when I tried to use MMPBSA to calculate the free energy
>> though single or triple trajectories. DIHED of complex is 5xxx and the
>> protein is 11xxx. (the other energy terms look fine)
>>
>> So I went back to check my procedures of preparing the system and tried to
>> find some information from the mail list and FAQ. Some people mantioned that
>> the different scaling factor may cause the energy variation. But as David
>> Case and Rose walker said, in Amber11 and Ambertool 1.5, sander would assign
>> the scaling factor (scee=1.2,scnb=2.0) automatically.
>>
>> In my output file, it showed the information below.
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> | Note: 1-4 EEL scale factors were NOT found in the topology file.
>> |       Using default value of 1.2.
>>
>> | Note: 1-4 VDW scale factors were NOT found in the topology file.
>> |       Using default value of 2.0.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> So I think the different DIHED may not be attributed to the scaling factor.
>>
>> Another possibility of the different DIHED may be the overlap of the
>> Glycam06 and ff99SB. I checked the parameter files of these two ff and I
>> found that only one atom type "Cy" has different difinetions in these two
>> ff. One is sp2 and the other one is sp3. But both my complex and protein
>> dont have the atom type "Cy". So I think the overlapping atom type "Cy" may
>> not casue the different DIHED neither.
>>
>> When I checked my procedures of preparing the system and tried different
>> source ff order to generate my top and rst file. I found something strange.
>> If I source ff99SB first and then source Glycam_06, the DIHED of complex
>> became 5xxx. But if I source Glycam_06 first and then ff99SB, it became
>> 11xxx !!
>>
>> Although my apo protein system comprises no glycan, I tried this in my apo
>> protein too. If I source only ff99SB, the DIHED was 11xxx. If I source
>> ff99SB first and then Glycam_06, the DIHED was 5xxx. But if I source
>> Glycam_06 first and then ff99SB, it became 11xxx again.
>>
>> In both apo and complex, the DIHED 11xxx looks more appropriate, because my
>> dimer-protein comprises almost 1000 residues But I still wonder what causes
>> this different DIHED and ensure there is nothing inappropriate for my later
>> mmpbsa calculation.
>>
>> Best regards :)
>> Ken
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> These are my operation steps in sleap
>>
>> source leaprc.ff99SB
>> source leaprc.Glycam_06
>> com = loadpdb xxx.pdb
>> addions com 38 Na+ 12 Cl-
>> solvatebox com TIP3PBOX 10.0
>> saveamberparm com xxx.top xxx.rst
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Here is my input file of min Complex.
>>
>> minimise
>>  &cntrl
>>  imin=1,maxcyc=1000,ncyc=500,
>>  cut=10.0,ntb=1,
>>  ntpr=100,
>>  ntr=1, restraintmask=':1-1114.CA,C,N',
>>  restraint_wt=5.0
>>  nmropt=1,
>>  &end
>>  &end
>>  &wt type='END'
>>  &end
>>  DISANG=dist.rst
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Output file 1 (source Glycam_06 and then ff99SB)
>>
>>                    FINAL RESULTS
>>
>>
>>   NSTEP       ENERGY          RMS            GMAX         NAME    NUMBER
>>   1000      -4.9221E+05     4.9197E-01     4.8894E+01     CE1      4127
>>
>>  BOND    =    33940.8786  ANGLE   =     2723.5512  DIHED      =
>> 4600.0170
>>  VDWAALS =    70077.5842  EEL     =  -661208.6465  HBOND      =
>>  0.0000
>>  1-4 VDW =     4062.8436 1-4 EEL =    52654.8763  RESTRAINT  =
>>  936.5455
>>  EAMBER  =  -493148.8955
>>  NMR restraints: Bond =    1.869   Angle =     0.000   Torsion =     0.000
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Output file 2 (source ff99SB and then Glycam_06)
>>
>>                    FINAL RESULTS
>>
>>
>>   NSTEP       ENERGY          RMS            GMAX         NAME    NUMBER
>>   1000      -5.2555E+05     4.2406E-01     4.0278E+01     CD      14860
>>
>>  BOND    =    37003.3845  ANGLE   =     2663.2636  DIHED      =
>>  10799.4054
>>  VDWAALS =    77597.0227  EEL     =  -711210.8832  HBOND      =
>>  0.0000
>>  1-4 VDW =     4054.2862 1-4 EEL =    52593.7994  RESTRAINT  =
>>  947.6604
>>  EAMBER  =  -526499.7214
>>  NMR restraints: Bond =    1.686   Angle =     0.000   Torsion =     0.000
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
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