Dear Prof.Carlos,
              Many thanks..anand
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos Simmerling <carlos.ilion.bio.sunysb.edu>
Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:22 pm
Subject: Re: AMBER: Extended bonds-MD
> It sounds like it might be a problem with the file format in
> the visualization. What program are you using? Are you telling
> it that you have a periodic system? (crdbox in vmd; amber PBC in 
> moil-view, etc)
> 
> Ananda Rama Krishnan Selvaraj wrote:
> 
> >Dear Ross,
> >           As per you suggestion, i have changed the input 
> parameter for
> >the MD simulation in periodic boundary condition. but again i am 
> getting>that extended lines (extended bonds and totally deformed 
> structures).>here is the input
> >
> >  PIB                                                              
>    
> >     
> >
> >General flags:
> >     imin    =       0, nmropt  =       0
> >
> >Nature and format of input:
> >     ntx     =       1, irest   =       0, ntrx    =       1
> >
> >Nature and format of output:
> >     ntxo    =       1, ntpr    =     200, ntrx    =       1, ntwr 
>   =
> >    500
> >     iwrap   =       0, ntwx    =     200, ntwv    =       0, ntwe 
>   =
> >      0
> >     ioutfm  =       0, ntwprt  =       0, idecomp =       0, 
> rbornstat=>     0
> >
> >Potential function:
> >     ntf     =       2, ntb     =       1, igb     =       0, nsnb 
>   =
> >     25
> >     ipol    =       0, gbsa    =       0
> >     dielc   =   1.00000, cut     =   8.00000, intdiel =   1.00000
> >     scnb    =   2.00000, scee    =   1.20000
> >
> >Frozen or restrained atoms:
> >     ibelly  =       0, ntr     =       1
> >
> >Molecular dynamics:
> >     nstlim  =  100000, nscm    =    1000, nrespa  =       1
> >     t       =   0.00000, dt      =   0.00050, vlimit  =  20.00000
> >
> >Temperature regulation:
> >     ig      =   71277, ntt     =       1, vrand   =       0
> >     temp0   =  10.00000, tempi   =   0.00000, heat    =   0.00000
> >     dtemp   =   5.00000, tautp   =   1.00000
> >
> >SHAKE:
> >     ntc     =       2, jfastw  =       0
> >     tol     =   0.00001
> >
> >Ewald parameters:
> >     verbose =       0, ew_type =       0, nbflag  =       0, 
> use_pme =
> >      1
> >     vdwmeth =       1, eedmeth =       1, frc_int =       0, 
> netfrc  =
> >      1
> >     Box X =  180.000   Box Y =   40.000   Box Z =   20.000
> >     Alpha =   90.000   Beta  =   90.000   Gamma =   90.000
> >     NFFT1 =  180       NFFT2 =   40       NFFT3 =   20
> >     Cutoff=    8.000   Tol   =0.100E-04
> >     Ewald Coefficient =  0.34864
> >     Interpolation order =    4
> >
> >The MD simulation was completed without any error message.
> >Interestingly, every 102  steps (snop shots), i have observed good
> >struture (comparatively, only one C-H bond is extended , other 
> bonds are
> >o.k).
> >
> >so could you tell the right way to correct error.
> >  
> >
> >moreover, i have started the simulation from the energy minimized
> >structure ( it is o.k.)
> >
> >thanks....anand
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Ross Walker <ross.rosswalker.co.uk>
> >Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:28 pm
> >Subject: RE: AMBER: Extended bonds-MD
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Dear Ananda
> >>
> >>A few comments on your input options:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>MD_simulation of IMB in PBC_1
> >>> &cntrl
> >>>   imin = 0, irest = 0, ntx = 1,
> >>>   ntt = 1, temp0 = 10.0,
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>temp0=10.0 you only want a temperature of 10 kelvin correct?
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>tautp = 1, gamma_ln = 10000,
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>gamma_ln is not used when ntt=1 only with ntt=3. For the record 
> >>though a
> >>value of 10000 for gamma_ln is huge. A value of 4 or 5 would be more
> >>appropriate.
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>   ntp = 0,
> >>>   ntb = 1, ntc = 1, ntf = 7,
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>ntf=7 -> This almost certainly the cause of your problems. This 
> >>means omit
> >>all bond angle and dihedral interactions. Do you really want to 
> do 
> >>this? In
> >>my experience running a simulation of a protein with just non-bonded
> >>interactions is never stable. The only time I find you can get 
> away 
> >>withNTF>1 is for NTF=2 and only then when you have shake turned 
> on 
> >>(ntc=2).Also, since you are running a 0.5fs time step there is 
> >>nothing to really be
> >>gained from ommiting bonds angles and dihedrals. I would treat 
> ntf 
> >>valuesgreater than 2 as being developer/debugging options.
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>   cut = 20.0, 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>20 angstroms is probably much much bigger than you need for a 
> periodic>>boundary simulation. Set it to 8 angstroms and only 
> increase it if 
> >>you don't
> >>run with PME.
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>scee = 4.0, scnb = 20.0,
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Why have you changed these? These really are developer options 
> and 
> >>should"never?" be changed by the end user without good reason. 
> The 
> >>entire force
> >>field (FF99, FF03...) is parameterised around the default values 
> of 
> >>thesescaling factors. SCNB should be 2.0 and scee should be 1.2. 
> >>Only change them
> >>if you have for some reason built yourself a completely new force 
> >>field.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>keep PIB fixed with strong constraints
> >>>100
> >>>RES 1  64
> >>>END
> >>>END
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>100.0 KCal/mol is a pretty big restraint and may cause 
> instability 
> >>in your
> >>system. It is probably ok for minimisation but I would reduce 
> this 
> >>duringmolecular dynamics. A value of 10 or less should be 
> >>sufficient to keep these
> >>residues fixed reasonably close to the initial structure.
> >>
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>is it due to the less simulation time period or the effect of 
> box 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>size> or the effect of some other parameters.
> >>
> >>This is an artifact of the various "strange" options in your 
> input 
> >>file that
> >>I have highlighted above. 
> >>
> >>All the best
> >>Ross
> >>
> >>/\
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> >>
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