Re: [AMBER] GB Methodology for Nucleic Acid to calculate Internal energy

From: Bill Ross <ross.cgl.ucsf.edu>
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:35:51 -0700

Hi Ramin,

I was loosely adopting the single point term from quantum mechanics,
i.e. you do not need to minimize, just get the energy at the first step.
One does it in vacuum in order to restrict the total energy to the
internal energy of the molecule.

Perhaps if you mention what you want to do with the number, others can
comment on how meaningful it is; it doesn't seem to be sought often.

Bill


On 4/5/17 3:01 AM, Ramin Salimi wrote:
> Thanks Bill.
> But can you please elaborate why minimization, and why in vacuum?
> What do you mean by single-point?
> Thanks
> Ramin
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> A single-point energy minimization in vacuum would give you an internal
> energy.
>
> Bill
>
>
> On 4/4/17 7:13 PM, Ramin Salimi wrote:
>> So how do I calculate the internal energy of my DNA molecule?
>> I used explicit solvent model to stretch my DNA, and now I want to calculate the internal energy during the extension. But I cannot get the internal energy out of solvated trajectory since it is dominated by solvent contribution from the individual water molecules. So I strip water molecules from the trajectory and run GB/SA.
>> But I don't know how to find the internal energy?
>> Ramin
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>> On Tue, Apr 04, 2017, Ramin Salimi wrote:
>>> But I am a bit confused. When we calculate the total free energy of our
>>> system, we write it as Gtot = Eintra + Gsolv - TSintra , and we want to
>>> calculate the internal energy, we cannot unambiguously separate out the
>>> two contributions Eintra + Gsolv . Am I right? If so, can we say that
>>> the EGB shown in the output file of the GB/SA method is the sum of these
>>> two terms? or it is just Gsolv? If it just the Gsolv, how can we find
>>> the contributions solely from internal energy?
>> You can't separate EGB = Gsolv into internal energy and entropy components.
>> (Not sure if this answers your question or not....)
>>
>> ....dac
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