Re: [AMBER] HMassRepartition

From: Adrian Roitberg <roitberg.ufl.edu>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 11:59:54 -0600

just to make sure, do not use ntt=1 !!!!

use ntt=3, with gamma_ln maybe 1 to 10

and indeed, use ig=-1 always !

adrian


On 11/16/16 10:41 AM, Thakur, Abhishek wrote:
> Thank you Dave and Nguyen.
>
> I really appreciate you all for your help and it is really very useful and I have learn many things.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Hai Nguyen <nhai.qn.gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 5:11:24 AM
> To: AMBER Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [AMBER] HMassRepartition
>
> After trying all suggestions ( :D ), you (Abhishek) can try to validate
> your protocol by running dt=0.001 and dt=0.004 (with hmass repartitioning)
> for tiny system (e.g Ala3) to get converge data (about few hundreds ns),
> then histogram CA distance between residue 1 and 3.
>
> If two runs (dt=0.001, dt=0.004) produce similar distribution, your
> protocol is fine.
>
> Hai
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 11:04 AM, David Cerutti <dscerutti.gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If your nstlim is that high then you are not in serious danger from random
>> seed bugs. The problem is that the NET force imparted to each particle by
>> Langevin thermostating tends towards zero as 1/sqrt(nstlim). If nstlim is
>> 10000 you'll see a big problem, 100000 you'll see a problem but may not
>> notice it, and 1000000+ the effect is negligible. Still, ig = -1 is
>> usually a good policy unless you are intent on exactly reproducing a
>> trajectory, it which case you should set ig to a specific sequence of
>> numbers (i.e. 8572, 8573, 8574, ...) for each segment.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Elvis Martis <elvis_bcp.elvismartis.in>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I guess you must first try what Daniel and Dave have suggested, maybe
>> you
>>> can play around with the gamma_ln values later when you rule out
>> everything
>>> else.
>>> all the best.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
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>>> On 16 November 2016 at 21:25, Thakur, Abhishek <axt651.miami.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Elvis thank you for such a quick response I am using default value for
>>>> gama_ln. so I guess it must be 0. Do you suggest someother value that I
>>>> should define>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David I don't think that I am using ig=-1, do you recommend me to try
>>> with
>>>> that?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is the script I am using in both case,
>>>>
>>>> Just with the difference of time step
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> imin=0,irest=1,ntx=5,
>>>> nstlim=2500000,dt=0.004,
>>>> ntf=2,ntc=2,ntb=0,
>>>> igb=8,cut=9999.0,rgbmax=25.0,
>>>> ntpr=500, ntwx=500, ntwr=10000,
>>>> saltcon=0.2,
>>>> temp0=300.0,
>>>> ntt=1,tautp=1.0,
>>>> nscm=0,ntxo=2,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: David Cerutti <dscerutti.gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 4:46:06 AM
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>>>> Subject: Re: [AMBER] HMassRepartition
>>>>
>>>> These are both very short runs, and without knowing any other details
>>>> (assuming you have done everything correctly) I would expect the dimer
>> to
>>>> open with 1fs time steps soon enough. Just to make sure, are you
>> running
>>>> with a clock-based or otherwise varying random seed? I don't know what
>>> the
>>>> status of all our bulletproofing is, but if you're running with ascii
>>>> restarts then there could still be a way to get repeating pseudo-random
>>>> sequences into your system which would tend to unfold proteins if the
>>>> restarts occur frequently enough (or cause milder "opening" effects if
>>> the
>>>> restarts happen less frequently).
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Thakur, Abhishek <axt651.miami.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have carried out two different GB/SA simulation, igb=5 and all the
>>>>> parameters same
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. With HMassRepartition with dt=0.004 and in 20ns I found that my
>>> dimer
>>>>> opened.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.Simple Gb/SA with dt=0.001 and in 20ns I have found my dimer has
>> not
>>>>> moved at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I cannot get the reason behind this, as both have same duration of
>>>>> simulation. Can this be possible or I have done some mistake>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanking you,
>>>>>
>>>>> Abhishek
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