Re: [AMBER] experiences with EVGA GTX TITAN Superclocked - memtestG80 - UNDERclocking in Linux ?

From: Jonathan Gough <jonathan.d.gough.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 10:37:03 -0400

I have the:
EVGA 06G-P4-2793-KR GeForce GTX TITAN SuperClocked Signature 6GB 384-bit
GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP, SLI Ready Video Card

and the previously posted results were with bugfix 18. Checking GB
nucleosome now


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Marek Maly <marek.maly.ujep.cz> wrote:

> Welcome in the club :))
>
> First of all do not panic. Scott recently identified and reported
> some cuFFT "bug" in connection with Titans and sent it to NVIDIA,
> now we have to wait what the NVIDIA experts answer. There is also another
> Amber/Titan issue
> which has some another origin (GB of big systems i.e. NUCLEOSOME) you may
> try it
> as well. Amber guys are working perhaps also on that.
>
> So on your place I would wait with RMAing unless you have any other
> indications
> that your GPU might me damaged. In between you may do some tests of this
> GPU with memtestG80.
>
> here is the most recent version:
>
> ---
> memtestG80
> https://github.com/ihaque/memtestG80
> here is the sync fix code
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> https://github.com/ihaque/memtestG80/commit/c4336a69fff07945c322d6c7fc40b0b12341cc4c
> ---
>
> BTW which Titan GPU are you using the stock one or the superclocked one ?
>
> Anyway I would recommend you to recompile Amber with the latests
> Amber 12 patch (bugfix 18) if you did not do it.
>
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> Dne Thu, 06 Jun 2013 12:01:35 +0200 Jonathan Gough
> <jonathan.d.gough.gmail.com> napsal/-a:
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> > Bad News.
> >
> > I ran each set of tests 4 times, nstlim=100000. FactorIX was the only one
> > that gave consistent results. Again I had a few that just died without
> > any
> > error messages.
> >
> > CentOs 6
> > gnu compilers
> > Cuda 5.0 and Driver Version: 319.23
> > AmberTools version 13.09
> > Amber version 12.18
> >
> > Cellulose_production_NVE/1/mdout: Etot = -443246.3206 EKtot =
> > 258074.3438 EPtot = -701320.6644
> > Cellulose_production_NVE/2/mdout Died at 4000 steps - no error message.
> > Cellulose_production_NVE/3/mdout: Etot = -443238.0345 EKtot =
> > 257651.0625 EPtot = -700889.0970
> > Cellulose_production_NVE/4/mdout: Etot = -443246.3206 EKtot =
> > 258074.3438 EPtot = -701320.6644
> >
> > Cellulose_production_NPT/1/mdout: Etot = -441009.1612 EKtot =
> > 257571.2031 EPtot = -698580.3643
> > Cellulose_production_NPT/2/mdout: Etot = -440947.3717 EKtot =
> > 257723.3750 EPtot = -698670.7467
> > Cellulose_production_NPT/3/mdout: Etot = -441024.3259 EKtot =
> > 257406.5781 EPtot = -698430.9041
> > Cellulose_production_NPT/4/mdout: Etot = -440970.6005 EKtot =
> > 257756.1250 EPtot = -698726.7255
> >
> > FactorIX_production_NVE/1/mdout: Etot = -234189.5802 EKtot =
> > 54845.8359 EPtot = -289035.4162
> > FactorIX_production_NVE/2/mdout: Etot = -234189.5802 EKtot =
> > 54845.8359 EPtot = -289035.4162
> > FactorIX_production_NVE/3/mdout: Etot = -234189.5802 EKtot =
> > 54845.8359 EPtot = -289035.4162
> > FactorIX_production_NVE/4/mdout: Etot = -234189.5802 EKtot =
> > 54845.8359 EPtot = -289035.4162
> >
> > FactorIX_production_NPT/1/mdout: Etot = -234493.4304 EKtot =
> > 55062.0156 EPtot = -289555.4460
> > FactorIX_production_NPT/2/mdout: Etot = -234493.4304 EKtot =
> > 55062.0156 EPtot = -289555.4460
> > FactorIX_production_NPT/3/mdout: Etot = -234493.4304 EKtot =
> > 55062.0156 EPtot = -289555.4460
> > FactorIX_production_NPT/4/mdout: Etot = -234493.4304 EKtot =
> > 55062.0156 EPtot = -289555.4460
> >
> > JAC_production_NVE/1/mdout: Etot = -58141.0647 EKtot =
> > 14347.6699 EPtot = -72488.7346
> > JAC_production_NVE/2/mdout: Etot = -58141.4961 EKtot =
> > 14320.1465 EPtot = -72461.6425
> > JAC_production_NVE/3/mdout: Died at 48000 steps
> > JAC_production_NVE/4/mdout: Etot = -58141.6938 EKtot =
> > 14257.2305 EPtot = -72398.9243
> >
> > JAC_production_NPT/1/mdout: Died at 78000 steps
> > JAC_production_NPT/2/mdout: Etot = -58206.6103 EKtot =
> > 14384.7959 EPtot = -72591.4062
> > JAC_production_NPT/3/mdout: Etot = -58211.2469 EKtot =
> > 14454.1592 EPtot = -72665.4061
> > JAC_production_NPT/1/mdout: Died at 89000 steps
> >
> >
> > Any recommendations on what to do? Send the card back? Update drivers?
> > Update Cuda?
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> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Marek Maly <marek.maly.ujep.cz> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes you got it,
> >>
> >> one more thing. Check carefully the benchmark mdin files and
> >> if you see there "ig=-1" just delete this, to ensure, that
> >> both runs of the given test will run using the same random seed.
> >>
> >> (As I remember I found it just in one or two tests, don't remember which
> >> one).
> >>
> >> Let us know your results i.e. if all the tests (JAC NVE/NPT, FACTOR_IX
> >> NVE/NPT etc.)
> >> successfully finished all 100K steps (in both runs) and if moreover the
> >> results from both runs
> >> are identical (just check the final energy).
> >>
> >> In case of any error (writen in mdout file or in standard output (screen
> >> or nohup.out ...) ), please report it here as well.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> M.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dne Thu, 06 Jun 2013 00:34:39 +0200 Jonathan Gough
> >> <jonathan.d.gough.gmail.com> napsal/-a:
> >>
> >> > I know I'm late in the game, but I have been reading some of these two
> >> > Titan threads. I'm now attempting to test my 1 Titan card and I want
> >> to
> >> > make sure I understand what I aught to be doing.
> >> >
> >> > Download the Amber_GPU_Benchmark_Suite
> >> > in mdin, change nstlim=100000
> >> > and then run the 6 benchmarks at least 2 times each
> >> >
> >> > yes?
> >> >
> >> > The issue that we have had is that simulations would just prematurely
> >> > stop.
> >> > We didn't see any error messages in the mdout file though, they just
> >> > stopped.
> >> >
> >> > Were using Cuda 5.0 and Driver Version: 319.23
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Marek Maly <marek.maly.ujep.cz>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Scott,
> >> >>
> >> >> thanks for update ! Let's see what will be reaction from NVIDIA.
> >> >> In the worst case let's hope that also some other (NON-NVIDIA) "GPU
> >> FFT
> >> >> library"
> >> >> alternatives exists (to be compiled/used alternatively with
> >> pmemd.cuda)
> >> >>
> >> >> BTW I just found this perhaps interesting article (I only list the
> >> >> supplementary part. ):
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.computer.org/csdl/trans/td/preprint/06470608-abs.html
> >> >>
> >> >> OK, meanwhile I finished my experiment/tests with swapping my two
> >> titans
> >> >> in slots. As you can see below it did not solve the problems on my
> >> >> "less stable" titan, but on the other hand there is significant
> >> >> improvement.
> >> >> I will now try with just "my less stable" GPU plugged on
> >> motherboard to
> >> >> eventually confirm that it's less stability has origin in it's higher
> >> >> sensitivity
> >> >> to dual GPU configuration (OR just to dual GPU config with another
> >> Titan
> >> >> maybe that
> >> >> with GTX 580/680 it will be OK or at least better than with 2
> >> Titans).
> >> >>
> >> >> M.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> SIMULTANEOUS TEST (BOTH GPUS) running at the same time
> >> >>
> >> >> density (100K steps, NPT, restrained solute)
> >> >> prod1 and prod2 (250K steps, NPT)
> >> >>
> >> >> TITAN_0, TITAN_1 now rather identify PCI slots than given cards.
> >> >>
> >> >> all the errs I have obtained here is here just:
> >> >>
> >> >> -----
> >> >> cudaMemcpy GpuBuffer::Download failed unspecified launch failure
> >> >> -----
> >> >>
> >> >> #1 ORIGINAL CONFIGURATION
> >> >>
> >> >> density prod1 prod2
> >> >>
> >> >> TITAN_0
> >> >> -297755.2479 -299267.1086 65K
> >> >> 20K -299411.2631 100K
> >> >>
> >> >> TITAN_1
> >> >> -297906.5447 -298657.3725 -298683.8965
> >> >> -297906.5447 -298657.3725 -298683.8965
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> #2 AFTER GPU SWAPPING (respect to PCI slots)
> >> >>
> >> >> density prod1 prod2
> >> >>
> >> >> TITAN_0 (so these are results of the GPU named before as TITAN_1)
> >> >> -297906.5447 -298657.3725 -298683.8965
> >> >> -297906.5447 -298657.3725 -298683.8965
> >> >>
> >> >> TITAN_1 (so these are results of the GPU named before as TITAN_0)
> >> >> -297906.5447 240K -298764.5294
> >> >> -297752.2836 -298997.8891 -299610.3812
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Dne Wed, 05 Jun 2013 18:15:48 +0200 Scott Le Grand
> >> >> <varelse2005.gmail.com>
> >> >> napsal/-a:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Filip,
> >> >> > What's happening on Titan can take a while to trigger. I have
> >> >> delivered
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > repro to NVIDIA that shows exactly what's happening but it's up to
> >> >> them
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > explain why because its occurring inside cuFFT. That's why you
> >> need
> >> >> to
> >> >> > run
> >> >> > at least 100K iterations to see a single occurrence.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There's a second issue that's happening with large GB simulations,
> >> but
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > one is even harder to trap. That doesn't mean it isn't happening,
> >> >> just
> >> >> > that it's on the very edge of doing so on Titan.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thankfully, I have not been able to trigger either bug on GK104 or
> >> >> K20...
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