Re: [AMBER] large difference between MMGBSA and MMPBSA free energy

From: Kong, Ren <rkong.tmhs.org>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 15:45:36 -0500

Hi Ray,



Thank you so much for the reply. It seems the STD for every item is not so big...


Differences (Complex - Receptor - Ligand):

Differences (Complex - Receptor - Ligand):

Energy Component Average Std. Dev. Std. Err. of Mean

Energy Component Average Std. Dev. Std. Err. of Mean

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

VDWAALS -51.6704 4.4471 0.3145

VDWAALS -51.6704 4.4471 0.3145

EEL 136.5886 12.1097 0.8563

EEL 136.5886 12.1097 0.8563

EGB -85.2148 11.2510 0.7956

EPB -111.3002 10.5839 0.7484

ESURF -3.8562 0.3254 0.0230

ECAVITY -4.6794 0.3995 0.0282


DELTA G gas 84.9182 11.8663 0.8391

DELTA G gas 84.9182 11.8663 0.8391

DELTA G solv -89.0710 11.2012 0.7920

DELTA G solv -115.9796 10.5205 0.7439



 DELTA G binding = -4.1529 +/- 3.2338 0.2287





 DELTA G binding = -31.0614 +/- 5.3846 0.3807





GENERALIZED BORN:

POISSON BOLTZMANN:


Complex:

Complex:

Energy Component Average Std. Dev. Std. Err. of Mean

Energy Component Average Std. Dev. Std. Err. of Mean

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

VDWAALS -4588.9601 34.8088 2.4614

VDWAALS -4588.9601 34.8088 2.4614

EEL -46396.8356 107.4889 7.6006

EEL -46396.8356 107.4889 7.6006

EGB -7028.7312 77.1243 5.4535





EPB -7128.3657 73.6705 5.2093

ESURF 184.7275 1.4006 0.0990





ECAVITY 199.5712 1.0756 0.0761


G gas -50985.7957 109.2466 7.7249

G gas -50985.7957 109.2466 7.7249

G solv -6844.0037 76.5618 5.4137





G solv -6928.7945 73.2458 5.1793


TOTAL -57829.7994 64.1770 4.5380

TOTAL -57914.5902 72.1161 5.0994



Receptor:

Receptor:

Energy Component Average Std. Dev. Std. Err. of Mean

Energy Component Average Std. Dev. Std. Err. of Mean

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

VDWAALS -2279.0229 22.5574 1.5950

VDWAALS -2279.0229 22.5574 1.5950

EEL -23284.9397 65.8095 4.6534

EEL -23284.9397 65.8095 4.6534

EGB -3438.6212 44.9608 3.1792





EPB -3484.5218 43.8002 3.0971

ESURF 93.8546 0.9062 0.0641





ECAVITY 101.6977 0.5965 0.0422


G gas -25563.9626 65.0641 4.6007

G gas -25563.9626 65.0641 4.6007

G solv -3344.7666 44.7765 3.1662





G solv -3382.8242 43.7453 3.0933


TOTAL -28908.7291 41.1937 2.9128

TOTAL -28946.7868 46.5430 3.2911



Ligand:

Ligand:

Energy Component Average Std. Dev. Std. Err. of Mean

Energy Component Average Std. Dev. Std. Err. of Mean

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

VDWAALS -2258.2667 23.3770 1.6530

VDWAALS -2258.2667 23.3770 1.6530

EEL -23248.4845 79.3244 5.6091

EEL -23248.4845 79.3244 5.6091

EGB -3504.8952 59.1518 4.1827





EPB -3532.5437 58.4830 4.1354

ESURF 94.7291 0.8840 0.0625





ECAVITY 102.5529 0.8162 0.0577


G gas -25506.7513 80.1946 5.6706

G gas -25506.7513 80.1946 5.6706

G solv -3410.1661 58.7464 4.1540





G solv -3429.9908 58.0774 4.1067


TOTAL -28916.9174 44.3756 3.1378

TOTAL -28936.7420 49.1077 3.4724






-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Luo, Ph.D. [mailto:ray.luo.uci.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 2:39 PM
To: AMBER Mailing List
Subject: Re: [AMBER] large difference between MMGBSA and MMPBSA free energy



What are your total free energies for the complex and the standalone

proteins? Most likely the differences would be much smaller in

percentage term. When computing deltaG, the percentage difference

always go up due to cancellation of significant leading digits in the

free energies.



Ray



On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Kong, Ren <rkong.tmhs.org> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I used the MMPBSA.py to calculate the GB and PB energy for a system of dimer protein with calcium ions.

> The input is :

> &general

> startframe=1,endframe=2000,

> interval=10,

> receptor_mask=':1-334,:669-674',ligand_mask=':335-668,:675-680'

> /

> &gb

> igb=5, saltcon=0.15,surften=0.005

> /

> &pb

> istrng=0.15,fillratio=4.0,exdi=78.5,scale=0.67

> /

> The final results made me a little confused:

>

> GENERALIZED BORN:

> DELTA G binding = -4.1529 +/- 3.2338 0.2287

> POISSON BOLTZMANN:

> DELTA G binding = -31.0614 +/- 5.3846 0.3807

>

> Why there is such a big difference between GB and PB calculation?

> Which one should be reliable in this case?

>

> Best,

> Ren Kong Ph.D.

> rkong.tmhs.org<mailto:ltsou.tmhs.org>

>

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