Re: [AMBER] Cyclic compounds

From: Jason Swails <jason.swails.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 00:24:08 -0500

Hello,

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 11:50 PM, John S <s.john634.gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Amber Users ,
>
> While carrying out energy minimization using non periodic boundary
> conditions using igb=1  .
> Even after going through steepest descent minimization , my system shows a
> high energy .Is it normal to get this in cyclic compounds .

Single point energies are not nearly as informative as energy
differences, especially considering the fact that the "zero" energy is
completely arbitrary for a force field. It appears as though your
system is rather small, and your energy is ~68.3 kcal/mol. This does
not seem terribly high...

When you are performing a minimization, the factors you want to look
at the closest are the RMS and the gradient. These will tell you how
stressed your system is (i.e. how far from a minimum it is).
Considering the fact that these values are very small, I'd say your
system is near a minimum (which is probably not surprising considering
how small the system appears to be).

Also note that the bonded terms must necessarily be positive based on
how the amber force field is defined. Indeed, contribution for each
of these terms is 0 in their equilibrium position. Only VDW and
electrostatics (including the 1-4 interactions and solvation terms for
implicit solvent) can be negative, as some of them are.

>
>  NSTEP       ENERGY          RMS            GMAX         NAME    NUMBER
>   1800       6.8299E+01     3.0163E-03     1.7630E-02     C2         53
>
>  BOND    =        3.8707  ANGLE   =       44.7856  DIHED      =
> 8.7678
>  VDWAALS =       -1.7451  EEL     =        0.5667  EGB        =
> -1.7387
>  1-4 VDW =       12.2132  1-4 EEL =        1.5783  RESTRAINT  =
> 0.0000
>
>
>   NSTEP       ENERGY          RMS            GMAX         NAME    NUMBER
>   1900       6.8299E+01     2.4809E-03     1.1919E-02     C2         53
>
>  BOND    =        3.8704  ANGLE   =       44.7861  DIHED      =
> 8.7674
>  VDWAALS =       -1.7450  EEL     =        0.5667  EGB        =
> -1.7387
>  1-4 VDW =       12.2132  1-4 EEL =        1.5783  RESTRAINT  =
> 0.0000
>
>
>   NSTEP       ENERGY          RMS            GMAX         NAME    NUMBER
>   2000       6.8299E+01     1.5407E-03     6.8580E-03     C2         28
>
>  BOND    =        3.8706  ANGLE   =       44.7863  DIHED      =
> 8.7669
>  VDWAALS =       -1.7449  EEL     =        0.5667  EGB        =
> -1.7387
>  1-4 VDW =       12.2132  1-4 EEL =        1.5783  RESTRAINT  =
> 0.0000
>
>
>   NSTEP       ENERGY          RMS            GMAX         NAME    NUMBER
>   2100       6.8298E+01     1.0520E-03     3.1501E-03     H16        26
>
>  BOND    =        3.8707  ANGLE   =       44.7866  DIHED      =
> 8.7665
>  VDWAALS =       -1.7448  EEL     =        0.5667  EGB        =
> -1.7387
>  1-4 VDW =       12.2132  1-4 EEL =        1.5783  RESTRAINT  =
> 0.0000
>

All the best,
Jason
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Jason M. Swails
Quantum Theory Project,
University of Florida
Ph.D. Graduate Student
352-392-4032
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