Re: [AMBER] Using idecomp=3 with igb=10 (PB)

From: Hannes Kopitz <Hannes.Kopitz.gmx.de>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:47:15 +0100

Hi Chris,

Sorry, my mistake. It should be something like ...

...
RRES 1 318
END
LRES 319 319
END
RES 1 319
END
END

The RRES and LRES cards define the residues to be considered for decomposition, whereas the RES card defines the residues for the output.
Moreover you should chose idecomp=1 for a per-residue decomposition. With idecomp=3 you would get a pairwise per-residue decomposition.
Also set ntmin to 2 and maxcyc to 0, cause you don't really want to perform any minimization step.
But anyway, for doing a PB decomposition you need AMBR10.
I hope that helps.

Cheers!
Hannes

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:54:09 +0100
> Von: Chris Whittleston <csw34.cam.ac.uk>
> An: AMBER Mailing List <amber.ambermd.org>
> Betreff: Re: [AMBER] Using idecomp=3 with igb=10 (PB)

> Dear Hannes,
>
> Thanks for the quick reply! I've tried changing to LRES and RRES and it
> seems to just suppress the output:
>
> FINAL RESULTS
>
>
>
> NSTEP ENERGY RMS GMAX NAME NUMBER
> 1 -1.1108E+04 1.3245E+00 1.4038E+01 HG 2021
>
> BOND = 191.2619 ANGLE = 696.4471 DIHED =
> 2808.3488
> VDWAALS = -2871.4868 EEL = -23739.7079 EPB =
> -3329.3383
> 1-4 VDW = 980.7815 1-4 EEL = 14155.9277 RESTRAINT =
> 0.0000
> ECAVITY = 0.0000 EDISPER = 0.0000
>
>
> CHECK DECOMP - TOTAL ENERGIES (w/ REST)
>
> INTERNAL= 0.0000
> VDWAALS = 0.0000 EEL = 0.0000
> EGB = 0.0000 ESURF = 0.0000
>
>
> CHECK DECOMP - SELF ENERGIES (w/o REST)
>
> INTERNAL= 0.0000
> VDWAALS = 0.0000 EEL = 0.0000
> EGB = 0.0000 ESURF = 0.0000
>
>
> CHECK DECOMP - INDIRECT ENERGIES (w/o REST)
>
> INTERNAL= 0.0000
> VDWAALS = 0.0000 EEL = 0.0000
> EGB = 0.0000 ESURF = 0.0000
>
>
> CHECK DECOMP - DIRECT ENERGIES (w/o REST)
>
> INTERNAL= 0.0000
> VDWAALS = 0.0000 EEL = 0.0000
> EGB = 0.0000 ESURF = 0.0000
>
>
> CHECK DECOMP - REST ENERGIES
>
> INTERNAL= 0.0000
> VDWAALS = 0.0000 EEL = 0.0000
> EGB = 0.0000 ESURF = 0.0000
>
>
>
>
> PRINT PAIR DECOMP - TOTAL ENERGIES
>
> resid1 ->resid2 |internal |vdw |eel |pol |sas
> ======================================================================
>
>
> PRINT PAIR DECOMP - SIDECHAIN ENERGIES
>
> resid1 ->resid2 |internal |vdw |eel |pol |sas
> ======================================================================
>
>
> PRINT PAIR DECOMP - BACKBONE ENERGIES
>
> resid1 ->resid2 |internal |vdw |eel |pol |sas
> ======================================================================
>
> It seems that the values for the internal, electrostatic and vdw energies
> are actually non-zero in the total output, just for the decomposition so I
> guess it could be that because the PB breakdown is not implemented in
> AMBER9
> - I'm just getting zeroes. Thanks for the help, I might try switching to
> AMBER10 at some point soon :)
>
> Best,
>
> Chris
>
> 2009/7/28 Hannes Kopitz <Hannes.Kopitz.gmx.de>
>
> > Dear Chris,
> >
> > A decomposition of the PB reaction field energy is implemented from
> AMBER10
> > but unfortunately not in AMBER9.
> >
> > Nevertheless the values for internal, vdw and eel shouldn't be zero.
> > Just a guess, you should try it with RRES and LRES instead of RES.
> >
> > Cheers!
> > Hannes
> >
> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > > Datum: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:04:14 +0100
> > > Von: Chris Whittleston <csw34.cam.ac.uk>
> > > An: amber.ambermd.org
> > > Betreff: [AMBER] Using idecomp=3 with igb=10 (PB)
> >
> > > Dear AMBER users,
> > >
> > > I'm currently looking at decomposed per-residue interaction energies
> in a
> > > protein-ligand system with a GB solvent model (e.g. igb=1/5) but would
> > > like
> > > to be able to use Poisson Boltzmann (igb=10) to compare with some
> results
> > > from an MMPBSA calculation of the same system. Unfortunately, I am
> just
> > > getting a huge table of 0.000 for every interaction energy.
> > >
> > > Here is my SANDER input:
> > >
> > > Interaction energy per residue input for SANDER
> > > &cntrl
> > > imin = 1,
> > > idecomp = 3,
> > > ncyc = 1,
> > > maxcyc = 1,
> > > igb = 10,
> > > ntb = 0,
> > > cut = 0, <- have also tried 999.9
> > > /
> > > &pb
> > > npopt = 0,
> > > radiopt = 0
> > > /
> > > First set
> > > RES -1 318
> > > END
> > > Second set
> > > RES 319
> > > END
> > > END
> > >
> > > I am using modified GLYCAM parameters for a sugar ligand, hence have
> set
> > > npopt=0 and radiopt=0. SANDER seems to run ok (it doesn't produce any
> > > warnings or crash out), but after taking 20 seconds or so calculating
> > > things
> > > - it produces a table as follows:
> > >
> > >
> > > PRINT PAIR DECOMP - TOTAL ENERGIES
> > >
> > > resid1 ->resid2 |internal |vdw |eel |pol |sas
> > > ======================================================================
> > > TDC 1-> 1 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 2 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 3 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 4 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 5 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 6 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 7 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 8 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 9 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 10 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 11 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 12 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 13 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 14 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 15 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 16 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 17 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 18 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 19 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 20 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 21 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 22 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 23 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 24 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 25 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 26 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > TDC 1-> 27 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
> > > ...
> > > ...
> > > etc (they're all zero)
> > >
> > > The total energy however is not zero as can be seen in the output
> above
> > > the
> > > interaction energy table:
> > >
> > > NSTEP ENERGY RMS GMAX NAME
> NUMBER
> > > 1 -1.1108E+04 1.3245E+00 1.4038E+01 HG
> 2021
> > >
> > > BOND = 191.2619 ANGLE = 696.4471 DIHED =
> > > 2808.3488
> > > VDWAALS = -2871.4868 EEL = -23739.7079 EPB =
> > > -3329.3383
> > > 1-4 VDW = 980.7815 1-4 EEL = 14155.9277 RESTRAINT =
> > > 0.0000
> > > ECAVITY = 0.0000 EDISPER = 0.0000
> > >
> > >
> > > Maximum number of minimization cycles reached.
> > >
> > >
> > > FINAL RESULTS
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > NSTEP ENERGY RMS GMAX NAME
> NUMBER
> > > 1 -1.1108E+04 1.3245E+00 1.4038E+01 HG
> 2021
> > >
> > > BOND = 191.2619 ANGLE = 696.4471 DIHED =
> > > 2808.3488
> > > VDWAALS = -2871.4868 EEL = -23739.7079 EPB =
> > > -3329.3383
> > > 1-4 VDW = 980.7815 1-4 EEL = 14155.9277 RESTRAINT =
> > > 0.0000
> > > ECAVITY = 0.0000 EDISPER = 0.0000
> > >
> > >
> > > CHECK DECOMP - TOTAL ENERGIES (w/ REST)
> > >
> > > INTERNAL= 0.0000
> > > VDWAALS = 0.0000 EEL = 0.0000
> > > EGB = 0.0000 ESURF = 0.0000
> > >
> > >
> > > CHECK DECOMP - SELF ENERGIES (w/o REST)
> > >
> > > INTERNAL= 0.0000
> > > VDWAALS = 0.0000 EEL = 0.0000
> > > EGB = 0.0000 ESURF = 0.0000
> > >
> > >
> > > CHECK DECOMP - INDIRECT ENERGIES (w/o REST)
> > >
> > > INTERNAL= 0.0000
> > > VDWAALS = 0.0000 EEL = 0.0000
> > > EGB = 0.0000 ESURF = 0.0000
> > >
> > >
> > > CHECK DECOMP - DIRECT ENERGIES (w/o REST)
> > >
> > > INTERNAL= 0.0000
> > > VDWAALS = 0.0000 EEL = 0.0000
> > > EGB = 0.0000 ESURF = 0.0000
> > >
> > >
> > > CHECK DECOMP - REST ENERGIES
> > >
> > > INTERNAL= 0.0000
> > > VDWAALS = 0.0000 EEL = 0.0000
> > > EGB = 0.0000 ESURF = 0.0000
> > >
> > >
> > > So - I was wondering if anyone could help me understand why I'm just
> > > getting
> > > zeroes! My one idea so far is that it is not possible to break down
> the
> > PB
> > > surface energy on a per-atom or per-residue basis and so SANDER is
> > > printing
> > > zeros. I'm using AMBER9 with all current bug fixes.
> > >
> > > Any and all help is greatly appriciated!
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
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