Re: [AMBER] cphstats processing of pH-REMD 'chunks'

From: Nitin Kulhar via AMBER <amber.ambermd.org>
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 11:11:06 +0530

Hi Dr Amy

Sorry for the late response.

I can see it in the cpout files (of all the replicas
in the first chunk of MD) that the protonation
is toggling amongst all the possible states in
accord with the pH value.

However, this is not so for the subsequent
chunks of MD, wherein the deprotonated state
has become seemingly 'fixed' regardless of
the pH value, which is changing with the
replica-exchange attempts (the successful ones).

Therefore, I would deeply appreciate any help
in pointing out the source of error. Please let
me know if I need to share more information.

Thanks and regards
Nitin Kulhar


On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 1:24 AM He, Amy <he.1768.buckeyemail.osu.edu> wrote:

> Hi Nitin,
>
>
>
> It seems like the fraction of protonation from the concatenated files is
> very low. To confirm if there’s a trend of decreased protonation:
>
>
>
> For the individual chunks of simulations, you can run cphstats for the
> original cpout files. If you know the length of each chunk, the total
> fraction of protonation can be calculated as a weighted average. No
> concatenation needed.
>
>
>
> If it doesn’t look like an expected trend, maybe it’s due to the
> concatenation. You can compared with the weighted average and see if you’re
> concatenating in the way you actually want.
>
>
>
> *From: *Nitin Kulhar <bo18resch11002.iith.ac.in>
> *Date: *Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 9:37 AM
> *To: *He, Amy <he.1768.buckeyemail.osu.edu>, AMBER Mailing List <
> amber.ambermd.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [AMBER] cphstats processing of pH-REMD 'chunks'
>
> Hi Amy Thanks for the email. I apologise for any confusion caused by the
> term 'chunks'. To clarify, I was NOT referring to the various
> interval-based averages namely, cumulative, running, and chunk, that can be
> obtained from cphstats.
>
> Hi Amy
>
>
> Thanks for the email.
>
>
>
> I apologise for any confusion
>
> caused by the term 'chunks'.
>
> To clarify, I was NOT referring to
>
> the various interval-based
>
> averages namely, cumulative,
>
> running, and chunk, that can be
>
> obtained from cphstats.
>
>
>
> I meant 'chunk' in the context of
>
> Jason Swail's tutorial on pH-REMD:
>
> http://jswails.wikidot.com/ph-remd#toc10
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/jswails.wikidot.com/ph-remd*toc10__;Iw!!KGKeukY!0QPqWCdXnVdLe8rKHuhDQJUoHGhMynPyu-b40QIv63g2Os1e-DpK5_jKEPGP4bL9_uzoA0pBmpXdBHrl_s3gAVsi_QK48jQAXHEKQHKF$>
>
>
>
> To quote from the tutorial:
>
> If you have run 10 ns of simulation
>
> in 1 ns chunks, you will need to
>
> run this program 10 times!
>
>
>
> PFA two titration curves: one obtained from
>
> by processing just the first segment, the other
>
> obtained by processing concatenated cpouts
>
> from all segments.
>
>
>
> Thanks and regards
>
> Nitin Kulhar
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 4:35 AM He, Amy <he.1768.buckeyemail.osu.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Nitin,
>
>
>
> Why do you think the results are wrong? Did it cumulate, or not cumulate,
> or not space in the way you want?
>
> The manual will give you a detailed difference with examples for the
> Cumulative, running, and “chunk” options of cphstats.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Nitin Kulhar via AMBER <amber.ambermd.org>
> *Date: *Friday, August 2, 2024 at 9:38 PM
> *To: *AMBER Mailing List <amber.ambermd.org>
> *Subject: *[AMBER] cphstats processing of pH-REMD 'chunks'
>
>
>
> Dear all
>
> I performed pH-REMD of 8
> REPLICAS. 25 ns of REMD
> were run in 1 ns SEGMENTS
> (or chunks) as delineated in
> the tutorial by Jason Swails
> available at link <
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://jswails.wikidot.com/ph-remd__;!!KGKeukY!yNeLxboggV6vrz65BXBmJdJtWYdmVZcrdIOV1wBGc78GZvpfjF_-WCNsdRPGRjBJUhH7F7YBvR3VSKHDhd3UMV574E0$
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/jswails.wikidot.com/ph-remd__;!!KGKeukY!yNeLxboggV6vrz65BXBmJdJtWYdmVZcrdIOV1wBGc78GZvpfjF_-WCNsdRPGRjBJUhH7F7YBvR3VSKHDhd3UMV574E0$>
> >.
>
> *The problem:*
>
> The pKa values obtained by
> processing the cpout files from
> all SEGMENTS (or chunks)
> were questionable, nay, wrong.
> However, the pKa values obtained
> by processing the cpout file from
> the first SEGMENT alone were
> correct.
>
> *Salient details of the REMD:*
>
> The inputs for each SEGMENT
> were generated by the
> genremdinputs.py script.
>
> The cpin and starting coordinates
> for REPLICA 'i' of SEGMENT 'j'
> were respectively the cprestart
> and restart files generated by
> REPLICA 'i' during SEGMENT 'j-1'.
>
> While the seed (ig) value
> differed among REPLICAS
> of the same SEGMENT, it
> was the same for a given
> REPLICA in all SEGMENTS.
> (Is that genremdinputs.py's doing?)
>
> *Salient details of processing cpouts:*
>
> The cpout files from consecutive
> SEGMENTS were concatenated
> with the cat command. This was
> done for each REPLICA separately.
>
> The concatenated cpout files of ALL
> REPLICAS were sorted according to
> pH values by using cphstats program
> with the --fix-remd option.
>
> The pH-sorted cpout files from above
> were processed with cphstats to obtain
> pKa values and population data.
>
> Please help me spot the mistake
> in my logic or execution of the steps.
>
> Thanks and regards
> Nitin Kulhar
>
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