Re: [AMBER] Few queries about membrane protein simulations

From: Joseph Baker <bakerj.tcnj.edu>
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 10:25:47 -0400

Hi all,

Ross, I noticed in this thread you just mentioned that

"""> 6. Is it possible to do PMF calculation with classical MD trajectories
or
> do I want to carried out umbrella sampling separately for PMF?
>

Yes you can do a PMF by using umbrella sampling. For example constraining
the center of mass of the bilayer or protein to a molecule of your choice
with the restraint just applying in the Z direction. Then just reconstruct
things with WHAM."""

My understanding from the manual and some previous threads is that a
restraint just applied along the Z direction is not possible in pmemd or
pmemd.cuda, but just in sander (through the . Am I wrong? This would
actually be very helpful for some simulations I want to run looking at
molecules moving through membranes.

Thanks,
Joe


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On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 5:26 AM, anu chandra <anu80125.gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the input, Jason and Ross.
>
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Ross Walker <ross.rosswalker.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Hi Anu,
> >
> > > My queries are,
> > >
> > > 1. I wish to use lipid 14  and FF14SB force fields for membrane and
> > protein
> > > respectively. Will it be okay? Do I have to use any correction terms
> > here?
> > > I will be using POPC membrane.
> > >
> >
> > Yes this is fine and no correction terms are needed.
> >
> > > 2. I have noticed in literature that , for microsecond long
> simulations,
> > > sometimes a 3 fs or 4 fs time steps were used. How safe to use such a
> > large
> > > simulation time step, though it reduce the use of computations
> resource?
> > >
> >
> > You can use 4fs time steps as long as you enable hydrogen mass
> > repartitioning - see
> >
> > Hopkins C.W., Le Grand, S., Walker, R.C., Roitberg, A.E., "Long Time Step
> > Molecular Dynamics through Hydrogen Mass Repartitioning", J. Chem.
> Theory.
> > Comput., 2015, 11 (4), 1864-1874, DOI: 10.1021/ct5010406
> >
> > Although this has not been extensively tested with membranes.
> >
> > > 3. The membrane protein, I am working with, transport ions depend on
> the
> > > concentration gradient. In order to implement this in my simulation, I
> am
> > > planning to add ions ( for e.g KCl) in one of the leaflet to see the
> > > movement of ions to the other leaflet through the pore. Am I making
> sense
> > > here, by restricting ion distribution to only one of the leaflet rather
> > > than randomly placing in the entire simulation box (usually do for
> > protein
> > > simulation) at the starting of simulation?
> >
> > We are working on support for asymmetric boundary conditions that will
> > effectively invert the symmetry in the Z direction allowing for ion
> > gradients. At present though this is not released. Your only real option
> > right now is to build a double bi-layer which will work fine but makes
> you
> > simulation larger and thus more expensive computationally. If you don't
> do
> > this then ions can just diffuse out the top of the box and thus appear in
> > the bottom of the adjacent box and therefore mix without having to
> traverse
> > the membrane.
> >
> > >
> > > 4. How can I build slab geometry boundary condition in Amber to
> maintain
> > > ion asymmetry? (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12829468)
> > >
> >
> > You would need to modify the code to support this. I would take a good
> > look in the literature at the different methods people have tried before
> > determining which is optimal. One thing that concerns me in the paper you
> > reference here is the term:
> >
> > "It was shown recently that the Ewald method devised for systems with
> > three-dimensional boundary conditions can also be applied to systems with
> > slab geometry if the correct surface term is considered."
> >
> > Note the use of a 'surface term' - this is something completely
> artificial
> > and what everyone in the field developing lipid force fields has been
> > working to move away from over the last several years.
> >
> > >
> > > 5. If I would like to do membrane protein simulations with an applied
> > > electric filed along Z-direction, how can I implement the electric
> field
> > in
> > > Amber simulations?
> > >
> >
> > Again you would need to add code to do this but it should not be too
> > difficult and would be less work than changing the way the boundary
> > conditions work. Although you'll need to figure out how to make this
> behave
> > correctly with PME. If you turn off PME then there is no warranty on the
> > lipid parameters. ;-)
> >
> > > 6. Is it possible to do PMF calculation with classical MD trajectories
> or
> > > do I want to carried out umbrella sampling separately for PMF?
> > >
> >
> > Yes you can do a PMF by using umbrella sampling. For example constraining
> > the center of mass of the bilayer or protein to a molecule of your choice
> > with the restraint just applying in the Z direction. Then just
> reconstruct
> > things with  WHAM.
> >
> > > 7. Though I wish to use Amber for membrane protein simulation, some one
> > > kindly provide some reference for membrane protein simulation where
> Amber
> > > used? ( sorry, I couldn't get one)
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=18167191384346104623&as_sdt=2005&sciodt=0,5&hl=en
> >
> >
> >
> https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=6723301433213089413&as_sdt=2005&sciodt=0,5&hl=en
> >
> >
> >
> https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=16304784273481526405&as_sdt=2005&sciodt=0,5&hl=en
> >
> > All the best
> > Ross
> >
> > /\
> > \/
> > |\oss Walker
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > |             Associate Research Professor              |
> > |            San Diego Supercomputer Center             |
> > |             Adjunct Associate Professor               |
> > |         Dept. of Chemistry and Biochemistry           |
> > |          University of California San Diego           |
> > |                     NVIDIA Fellow                     |
> > | http://www.rosswalker.co.uk | http://www.wmd-lab.org  |
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