you'll need to look at the part where you assign the parameters. The
minimization shows that the energy starts positive, then the electrostatic
part gets very large and negative, while the vdw does not go up by much.
Prof Case is correct that it is likely because the ho atom type does not
have a vdw radius, but I don't understand why there is not more repulsion
between O42 and O3. What is the distance between those atoms in the
structure where O42 and H8 overlap? What is the distance from H8 to O3? you
need to check these and see if they make sense, and try to debug the
parameter assignments.
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:21 AM, anu chandra <anu80125.gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Prof. Carlos and Prof. Case,
>
> Thanks for the inputs.
>
> I have also carried out vacuum minimization of IP3 itself, with and without
> using SHAKE. But  both attempt also itself failed giving the same error, as
> shown below.
>
>
> *****************************************************************************************************************************************
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    4.  RESULTS
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>  ---------------------------------------------------
>
>      eedmeth=4: Setting switch to one everywhere
>
>  ---------------------------------------------------
> | Local SIZE OF NONBOND LIST =        357
> | TOTAL SIZE OF NONBOND LIST =        357
>
>
>    NSTEP       ENERGY          RMS            GMAX         NAME    NUMBER
>       1       5.2742E+02     2.7409E+01     1.1716E+02     P4          2
>
>  BOND    =        8.4877  ANGLE   =       22.8180  DIHED      =
> 24.0103
>  VDWAALS =        8.2413  EEL     =     -177.5628  HBOND      =
> 0.0000
>  1-4 VDW =        6.0891  1-4 EEL =      635.3332  RESTRAINT  =
> 0.0000
>
>
>    NSTEP       ENERGY          RMS            GMAX         NAME    NUMBER
>      50      -2.9898E+05     4.4500E+07     2.2998E+08     O42         3
>
>  BOND    =      365.9618  ANGLE   =       38.8637  DIHED      =
> 25.0991
>  VDWAALS =      155.9695  EEL     =  -300177.8643  HBOND      =
> 0.0000
>  1-4 VDW =        5.2069  1-4 EEL =      611.1925  RESTRAINT  =
> 0.0000
>
>
>    NSTEP       ENERGY          RMS            GMAX         NAME    NUMBER
>     100      -1.7285E+07     1.4753E+11     7.6244E+11     H8         10
>
>  BOND    =      365.5569  ANGLE   =       38.8517  DIHED      =
> 25.0989
>  VDWAALS =      155.4699  EEL     = *************  HBOND      =
> 0.0000
>  1-4 VDW =        5.2061  1-4 EEL =      611.1999  RESTRAINT  =
> 0.0000
>
>
>    NSTEP       ENERGY          RMS            GMAX         NAME    NUMBER
>     150      -6.6469E+07     2.1813E+12     1.1273E+13     O42         3
>
>  BOND    =      365.5656  ANGLE   =       38.8519  DIHED      =
> 25.0989
>  VDWAALS =      155.4807  EEL     = *************  HBOND      =
> 0.0000
>  1-4 VDW =        5.2061  1-4 EEL =      611.1997  RESTRAINT  =
> 0.0000
>
>
>    NSTEP       ENERGY          RMS            GMAX         NAME    NUMBER
>     200      -3.5359E+08     6.1726E+13     3.1900E+14     H8         10
>
>  BOND    =      365.5635  ANGLE   =       38.8519  DIHED      =
> 25.0989
>  VDWAALS =      155.4780  EEL     = *************  HBOND      =
> 0.0000
>  1-4 VDW =        5.2061  1-4 EEL =      611.1998  RESTRAINT  =
> 0.0000
>
> NSTEP       ENERGY          RMS            GMAX         NAME    NUMBER
>     250      -8.9767E+07     3.9783E+12     2.0560E+13     H8         10
>
>  BOND    =      365.5625  ANGLE   =       38.8518  DIHED      =
> 25.0989
>  VDWAALS =      155.4768  EEL     = *************  HBOND      =
> 0.0000
>  1-4 VDW =        5.2061  1-4 EEL =      611.1998  RESTRAINT  =
> 0.0000
>
>
>    NSTEP       ENERGY          RMS            GMAX         NAME    NUMBER
>     300      -3.3793E+08     5.6377E+13     2.9136E+14     O42         3
>
>  BOND    =      365.5642  ANGLE   =       38.8519  DIHED      =
> 25.0989
>  VDWAALS =      155.4789  EEL     = *************  HBOND      =
> 0.0000
>  1-4 VDW =        5.2061  1-4 EEL =      611.1998  RESTRAINT  =
> 0.0000
>
>
>    NSTEP       ENERGY          RMS            GMAX         NAME    NUMBER
>     350      -8.0637E+07     3.2102E+12     1.6591E+13     H8         10
>
>  BOND    =      365.5623  ANGLE   =       38.8518  DIHED      =
> 25.0989
>  VDWAALS =      155.4766  EEL     = *************  HBOND      =
> 0.0000
>  1-4 VDW =        5.2061  1-4 EEL =      611.1998  RESTRAINT  =
> 0.0000
>
>
>    NSTEP       ENERGY          RMS            GMAX         NAME    NUMBER
>     400      -1.7019E+08     1.4300E+13     7.3903E+13     H8         10
>
>  BOND    =      365.5631  ANGLE   =       38.8518  DIHED      =
> 25.0989
>  VDWAALS =      155.4776  EEL     = *************  HBOND      =
> 0.0000
>  1-4 VDW =        5.2061  1-4 EEL =      611.1998  RESTRAINT  =
> 0.0000
>
>
>    NSTEP       ENERGY          RMS            GMAX         NAME    NUMBER
>     450      -1.4301E+08     1.0097E+13     5.2183E+13     O42         3
>
>  BOND    =      365.5646  ANGLE   =       38.8519  DIHED      =
> 25.0989
>  VDWAALS =      155.4795  EEL     = *************  HBOND      =
> 0.0000
>  1-4 VDW =        5.2061  1-4 EEL =      611.1998  RESTRAINT  =
> 0.0000
>
> NSTEP       ENERGY          RMS            GMAX         NAME    NUMBER
>     500      -5.6742E+08     1.5895E+14     8.2148E+14     H8         10
>
>  BOND    =      365.5636  ANGLE   =       38.8519  DIHED      =
> 25.0989
>  VDWAALS =      155.4782  EEL     = *************  HBOND      =
> 0.0000
>  1-4 VDW =        5.2061  1-4 EEL =      611.1998  RESTRAINT  =
> 0.0000
>  Frac coord min, max:   -38635069.530564517        38635070.634237535
>  The system has extended beyond
>      the extent of the virtual box.
>  Restarting sander will recalculate
>     a new virtual box with 30 Angstroms
>     extra on each side, if there is a
>     restart file for this configuration.
>  SANDER BOMB in subroutine Routine: map_coords (ew_force.f)
>  Atom out of bounds. If a restart has been written,
>  restarting should resolve the error
>
> **************************************************************************************************************
>
> Here also I have seen that the atoms O42 and H8 get overlapped, though they
> attached to different R group in the IP3. The initial structure looks fine.
> I have used the Gaussian output file has the input to antechamber. The
> frcmod file generated with parmchk was empty. Below is the prep file for
> IP3.
>
>
> ************************************************************************************************************
>     0    0    2
>
> This is a remark line
> molecule.res
> IP3   INT  0
> CORRECT     OMIT DU   BEG
>   0.0000
>    1  DUMM  DU    M    0  -1  -2     0.000      .0        .0      .00000
>    2  DUMM  DU    M    1   0  -1     1.449      .0        .0      .00000
>    3  DUMM  DU    M    2   1   0     1.523   111.21       .0      .00000
>    4  O41   o     M    3   2   1     1.540   111.208  -180.000 -1.263427
>    5  P4    p5    M    4   3   2     1.570    81.355  -114.633  2.124369
>    6  O42   o     E    5   4   3     1.550   112.921    96.131 -1.208453
>    7  O43   o     E    5   4   3     1.546   112.279   -33.736 -1.188119
>    8  O4    os    M    5   4   3     1.741   105.485  -151.933 -0.737826
>    9  C4    c3    M    8   5   4     1.450   126.985    39.454  0.280346
>   10  H4    h1    E    9   8   5     1.093   109.176    43.158 -0.001173
>   11  C3    c3    M    9   8   5     1.563   109.826   -75.183  0.275427
>   12  O3    oh    S   11   9   8     1.435   112.517    88.406 -1.112872
>   13  H8    ho    E   12  11   9     1.001   103.797   -54.961  0.717472
>   14  H3    h1    E   11   9   8     1.099   104.906   -28.189 -0.072340
>   15  C2    c3    M   11   9   8     1.543   114.613  -143.781  0.942622
>   16  O2    oh    S   15  11   9     1.432   114.279   -63.147 -0.935277
>   17  H7    ho    E   16  15  11     0.986   108.726    60.380  0.383055
>   18  H2    h1    E   15  11   9     1.097   107.754  -179.450 -0.133582
>   19  C1    c3    M   15  11   9     1.546   106.561    64.895 -0.348903
>   20  O1    os    S   19  15  11     1.440   112.618   166.180 -0.624344
>   21  P1    p5    3   20  19  15     1.734   123.642  -135.874  2.056188
>   22  O11   o     E   21  20  19     1.559   104.155   -49.935 -1.207060
>   23  O12   o     E   21  20  19     1.552   103.289  -169.606 -1.212929
>   24  O13   o     E   21  20  19     1.554   107.672    70.804 -1.186606
>   25  H1    h1    E   19  15  11     1.097   105.863    48.080  0.109668
>   26  C6    c3    M   19  15  11     1.558   109.976   -66.865  0.537179
>   27  O6    oh    S   26  19  15     1.444   108.780   150.002 -1.087009
>   28  H9    ho    E   27  26  19     0.986   106.336    37.928  0.675044
>   29  H6    h1    E   26  19  15     1.094   107.505   -92.490  0.027409
>   30  C5    c3    M   26  19  15     1.590   116.139    23.814  0.210327
>   31  H5    h1    E   30  26  19     1.092   107.887   145.326  0.086686
>   32  O5    os    M   30  26  19     1.450   107.622   -96.174 -0.512920
>   33  P5    p5    M   32  30  26     1.801   129.616   -99.468  1.862803
>   34  O52   o     E   33  32  30     1.551   101.554  -147.765 -1.171381
>   35  O53   o     E   33  32  30     1.545   106.042   -27.462 -1.129296
>   36  O51   o     M   33  32  30     1.548   105.881    94.170 -1.155078
>
>
> LOOP
>    C5   C4
>
> IMPROPER
>
> DONE
> STOP
>
> **********************************************************************************************************************
>
> Can you suggest me the immediate steps I should take to debug this by
> looking at the prepi file generated with antechamber.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Anu
>
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:53 PM, David A Case <case.biomaps.rutgers.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, May 13, 2015, Carlos Simmerling wrote:
> >
> > > looking at the energy after 400 steps is difficult to evaluate, but
> since
> > > the energy is very large and negative and the vdw energy is not that
> > high,
> > > I would guess that you have a parameter problem. overlapping atoms
> should
> > > give very high vdw energies. you'll need to look at your parameters and
> > the
> > > antechamber output to see what's going on.
> >
> > To add to Carlos' suggestions: stop the simulation after 400 steps and
> > look at
> > it visually (or use the checkstructure command in cpptraj.)  The most
> > likely
> > culprits are hydrogen atoms that have zero vdW radii, and can get too
> close
> > to other atoms (are you using SHAKE?).
> >
> > ...dac
> >
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