Re: [AMBER] huge values for the vibrational entropy from ptraj

From: Vlad Cojocaru <vlad.cojocaru.mpi-muenster.mpg.de>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:37:52 +0100

Thanks Dave,

Yes, I did superimpose (I provided a sample input for ptraj in my
previous email).

I will try to play around with some toy system before going back to my
systems ... I just thought maybe somebody has seen such a behavior
before and could give some hints on where the problem might be ...

Best wishes
Vlad

Just in case it might help .... Here is a more detailed chunk of the output



                     *******************
                     - Thermochemistry -
                     *******************



  temperature 298.150 kelvin
  pressure 1.00000 atm
  molecular mass (principal isotopes) 50699.61600 amu

  principal moments of inertia (nuclei only) in amu-A**2:
        13071316.84 33416392.14 37720238.26

  rotational symmetry number 1.

  Warning-- assumption of classical behavior for rotation
            may cause significant error


  rotational temperatures (kelvin) 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000

  zero point vibrational energy -574104810.9 (joules/mol)
                                ************ (kcal/mol)
                                -218.6606748 (hartree/particle)

  Warning-- *** vibrations have low frequencies and may represent hindered
          internal rotations. The contributions printed below assume
that these
          really are vibrations.
  warning: setting vibrational entropy to zero for mode 13530
with vtemp = -255030915.01682976
  warning: setting vibrational entropy to zero for mode 13531
with vtemp = -136638356.27652273
  warning: setting vibrational entropy to zero for mode 13532
with vtemp = -97969224.467119500
  ....... (continues with the same warnings ...) ...............
  warning: setting vibrational entropy to zero for mode 19059
with vtemp = -117200.85428099972

            freq. E Cv S
           cm**-1 kcal/mol cal/mol-kelvin cal/mol-kelvin
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Total *********** NaN 20143.554
  translational 0.888 2.979 58.245
  rotational 0.888 2.979 62.384
  vibrational *********** NaN 20022.926
      1 0.208 0.592 1.986 15.699
      2 0.277 0.592 1.986 15.129
      3 0.345 0.592 1.986 14.689
      4 0.397 0.592 1.986 14.413
      5 0.661 0.592 1.986 13.399
      6 0.713 0.592 1.986 13.249
      7 0.838 0.592 1.986 12.929
      8 0.923 0.592 1.986 12.736
      9 1.034 0.592 1.986 12.510
     10 1.183 0.592 1.986 12.243
     11 1.235 0.592 1.986 12.157
     12 1.340 0.592 1.986 11.996
     13 1.420 0.592 1.986 11.881
     14 1.496 0.592 1.986 11.777
     15 1.552 0.592 1.986 11.704
     16 1.636 0.592 1.986 11.600
     17 1.728 0.592 1.986 11.491
     18 1.773 0.592 1.986 11.439
     19 1.817 0.592 1.986 11.391
     20 1.885 0.592 1.986 11.318
     21 1.975 0.592 1.986 11.226
     22 2.043 0.592 1.986 11.158
     23 2.116 0.592 1.986 11.088
     24 2.243 0.592 1.986 10.972
     25 2.277 0.592 1.986 10.943
     26 2.402 0.592 1.986 10.837
     27 2.445 0.592 1.986 10.801
     28 2.508 0.592 1.986 10.751
     29 2.633 0.592 1.986 10.654
     30 2.767 0.592 1.986 10.556
     31 2.810 0.592 1.986 10.525
     32 2.864 0.592 1.986 10.487
     33 2.945 0.592 1.986 10.432
     34 2.982 0.592 1.986 10.407
     35 3.088 0.592 1.986 10.338
     36 3.135 0.592 1.986 10.308
     37 3.174 0.592 1.986 10.283
     38 3.217 0.592 1.986 10.256
     39 3.286 0.592 1.986 10.214
     40 3.378 0.592 1.986 10.159
     41 3.430 0.592 1.986 10.129
     42 3.435 0.592 1.986 10.126
     43 3.456 0.592 1.986 10.114
     44 3.577 0.592 1.986 10.046
     45 3.606 0.592 1.986 10.030
     46 3.656 0.592 1.986 10.002
     47 3.722 0.592 1.986 9.967
     48 3.773 0.592 1.986 9.940
     49 3.820 0.592 1.986 9.915
     50 3.834 0.592 1.986 9.908
     51 3.946 0.592 1.986 9.851
     52 3.976 0.592 1.986 9.836
     53 4.076 0.592 1.986 9.786
     54 4.125 0.592 1.986 9.763
     55 4.191 0.592 1.986 9.731
     56 4.212 0.592 1.986 9.721
     57 4.262 0.592 1.986 9.698
     58 4.302 0.592 1.986 9.679
     59 4.350 0.592 1.986 9.657
     60 4.435 0.592 1.986 9.619
     61 4.447 0.592 1.986 9.613
     62 4.498 0.592 1.986 9.591
     63 4.565 0.592 1.986 9.562
     64 4.609 0.592 1.986 9.542
     65 4.696 0.592 1.986 9.505
     66 4.763 0.592 1.986 9.477
     67 4.810 0.592 1.986 9.458
     68 4.814 0.592 1.986 9.456
     69 4.905 0.592 1.986 9.419
     70 4.927 0.592 1.986 9.410
     71 4.977 0.592 1.986 9.390
     72 5.023 0.592 1.986 9.371
     73 5.041 0.592 1.986 9.364
     74 5.113 0.592 1.986 9.336
     75 5.120 0.592 1.986 9.333
     76 5.182 0.592 1.986 9.310
     77 5.203 0.592 1.986 9.302
     78 5.282 0.592 1.986 9.272
     79 5.305 0.592 1.986 9.263
     80 5.343 0.592 1.986 9.249
     81 5.357 0.592 1.986 9.244
     82 5.451 0.592 1.986 9.209
     83 5.514 0.592 1.986 9.186
     84 5.578 0.592 1.986 9.163
     85 5.611 0.592 1.986 9.152
     86 5.629 0.592 1.986 9.145
     87 5.686 0.592 1.986 9.125
     88 5.748 0.592 1.986 9.104
     89 5.770 0.592 1.986 9.096
     90 5.828 0.592 1.986 9.076
     91 5.876 0.592 1.986 9.060
     92 5.892 0.592 1.986 9.055
     93 5.957 0.592 1.986 9.033
     94 5.972 0.592 1.986 9.028
     95 6.016 0.592 1.986 9.013
     96 6.039 0.592 1.986 9.006
     97 6.102 0.592 1.986 8.985
     98 6.184 0.592 1.986 8.958
     99 6.200 0.592 1.986 8.954
    100 6.253 0.592 1.986 8.936
.................. (continues like this .. until ...) ............
   7997 1358.099 1.947 0.121 0.021
   7998 1362.292 1.953 0.120 0.021
   7999 1366.865 1.959 0.118 0.021
   8000 1372.397 1.967 0.116 0.020
   8001 83395.518 119.227 0.000 0.000
   8002541164.588 773.681 NaN 0.000
   8003552609.416 790.043 NaN 0.000
   8004553227.656 790.927 NaN 0.000
   8005555544.100 794.239 NaN 0.000
   8006557572.554 797.139 NaN 0.000
   8007558879.512 799.007 NaN 0.000
   8008560231.050 800.939 NaN 0.000
   8009562143.724 803.674 NaN 0.000
   8010563281.075 805.300 NaN 0.000
   8011564392.364 806.889 NaN 0.000
   8012567215.524 810.925 NaN 0.000
   8013568793.379 813.181 NaN 0.000
   8014569109.740 813.633 NaN 0.000
   8015571332.940 816.811 NaN 0.000
   8016572492.789 818.470 NaN 0.000
.................. (continues like this .. until ...) ............
13526********** 67467.092 NaN 0.000
  13527********** 89906.420 NaN 0.000
  13528********** 120303.585 NaN 0.000
  13529********** 179745.375 NaN 0.000
  13530********** 253229.659 0.000 0.000
  13531********** 135673.294 0.000 0.000
  13532********** 97277.278 0.000 0.000
  13533********** 83261.582 0.000 0.000
  13534********** 71441.825 0.000 0.000
  13535********** 65483.927 0.000 0.000
.................. (continues like this .. until ...) ............
  19055********** 791.335 0.000 0.000
  19056********** 789.431 0.000 0.000
  19057********** 786.797 0.000 0.000
  19058********** 777.133 0.000 0.000
  19059-81399.181 116.373 0.000 0.000


On 10/29/2013 12:45 PM, David A Case wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013, Vlad Cojocaru wrote:
>> I did an entropy estimation from a quasi harmonic analysis in ptraj of a
>> 150 ns simulation (50.000 frames). I get huge numbers for the
>> vibrational entropy (sample output below).
>>
>> -------------- sample output complex---------------------------
>> freq. E Cv S
>> cm**-1 kcal/mol cal/mol-kelvin cal/mol-kelvin
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Total *********** NaN 20143.554
>> translational 0.888 2.979 58.245
>> rotational 0.888 2.979 62.384
>> vibrational *********** NaN 20022.926
> That fact that you have all "***" and "NaN" (not a number) in your output
> certainly suggests that something is wrong. I don't see how this can easily
> be debugged remotely: look for information about the individual frequencies.
> Did you superimpose your trajectory (to remove overall rotation and
> translation) before running the quasiharmonic analysis? You may want to gain
> experience on a simpler, smaller system to make sure you are confident in how
> everything is supposed to work.
>
> ...dac
>
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Dr. Vlad Cojocaru
Max Planck Institute for Molecular Biomedicine
Department of Cell and Developmental Biology
Röntgenstrasse 20, 48149 Münster, Germany
Tel: +49-251-70365-324; Fax: +49-251-70365-399
Email: vlad.cojocaru[at]mpi-muenster.mpg.de
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