Re: [AMBER] Anyone running machines with Quad GPU setups

From: ET <sketchfoot.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 06:19:56 +0100

ps. Anyone been tempted by a bitcoin mining rig type setup? :P

http://bitcoinexaminer.org/20-insane-bitcoin-mining-rigs/

The PCIe extender cable looks good in terms of allowing your card to
breathe if you can custom rig a case that's not going to burn down your
house.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/pci-e-riser

br,
g




On 25 June 2013 04:06, ET <sketchfoot.gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
> Thanks for the info on the case mods & temps. I decided to go with the
> HAF-X case, which despite it's ugliness has the the ducts that you
> mentioned.. Have got my fingers crossed that the switch connectors won't be
> covered by the final GPU. :)
>
> I think the price difference between my build & that of Ross is ~ £250.
> However, as I'm short on time & did not really like the look of AM3+ for
> various reasons, I don't mind the cash difference. Additionally, I'm prob
> going to sell this machine year end, so kitted it so it would be desirable
> for an overclocker.
>
>
> br,
> g
>
>
> On 25 June 2013 00:58, Ross Walker <ross.rosswalker.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kevin,
>>
>> Thanks for the detailed info. The GTX680s in our experience have been rock
>> solid stable. 1 out of 20 for infant death sounds about right in my
>> experience. You should be able to just RMA that card and you should be
>> good. Note, you can also build such systems with AMD processors. Attached
>> is a pdf with an Amazon shopping list for a 4 GTX680 system which we have
>> built many of for $3200 - might even be cheaper now with the 680s coming
>> down in price. - This motherboard takes all 4 GPUs without hitting
>> anything - as long as you don't try to connect up a bunch of external USB
>> connectors.
>>
>> This same system should work great for GTX780s as well - we just need to
>> make sure they are giving the correct answers - looking more positive by
>> the day.
>>
>> I've not seen any major issues with 4 GPU cooling in these systems - as
>> long as you have plenty of back airflow as you have ones should be good.
>> 90C is a normal temperature for GTX680 and I've run several flat out for
>> months on end at this temperature.
>>
>> I second the choice of slurm. It's certainly far from "Simple" but it does
>> seem to understand GPUs better than any of the other queuing systems out
>> there. Indeed - the 'certified' clusters I designed with exxact use Slurm.
>> Rocks with the slurm roll works great for GPU clusters.
>>
>> Again, thanks for this info, should be useful to lots of people here.
>>
>> All the best
>> Ross
>>
>>
>> On 6/24/13 4:40 PM, "Kevin Hauser" <84hauser.gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >A good bit late to the discussion, but we've been having success with a
>> >relatively cheap setup ~ $3,200 per machine and five machines (about 3
>> >weeks of production burning; acceptable temperatures; see below).
>> >
>> >Bad news first:
>> >We lost one GPU (out of 20). Not bad, considering our expectations from
>> >commodity kit.
>> >
>> >Briefly, we got five quad-GPU boxes running EVGA GTX680-FTW, Intel
>> >i7-3820,
>> >on the GigaByte GA-X79-UD3 LGA2011 mobo. # See slide one of attached *pdf
>> >for overview.
>> >
>> >Discussion on our kit:
>> >The Antec P280 cases are great b/c all metal is rubber coated for quiet
>> >running, there's three fans included, a quick mount for a fourth 120mm
>> >fan,
>> >and space for half-dozen HDDs. It's pretty heavy, though (22 lbs, dry).
>> >--$110
>> >
>> >The CPU is what it is; from our vendor, cpu cooler is not included. We
>> got
>> >the Cooler Master Hyper212 --$300 + $33
>> >
>> >The mobos appear to be well manufactured, especially given the price
>> (half
>> >of ET's Asus kit). BUT, I needed to take apart the power and reset
>> >terminals connecting case to mobo so the last GPU fully seats into the
>> >mobo. -- $230 # See slide two of attached *pdf.
>> >
>> >Good news last:
>> >I took the DHFR test case (mdin below) and ran it for 100 ps. I left
>> >ntpr=1
>> >to see when and where things got funky... Every single GPU in all five
>> >"nodes" produced identical mdouts. Afterwards, we had that one GPU die,
>> >though. I'm getting double the speed we were getting on our center's mega
>> >expensive server (Tesla M2070s).
>> >custom short md
>> > &cntrl
>> > nstlim=100000, ig=11,ioutfm=1,ntxo=2,
>> > ntx=5, irest=1,
>> > ntc=2, ntf=2,
>> > ntpr=1, ntwr=10000,
>> > dt=0.002,
>> > ntt=1, tautp=10.0,
>> > temp0=300.0,
>> > ntb=2,ntp=1,taup=10.0,
>> > /
>> >
>> >
>> >Burn test info:
>> >Overall, our GPUs have not exceeded 90 C, yet. Max sustained we've seen
>> is
>> >87 C. They're in our old, cold server room.
>> >
>> >Only down time last three weeks or so was when we were sorting out our
>> NFS
>> >or PXE or Slurm queuing system (only a few hours, really). Slurm is
>> >actually quite nice, simple, and very free.
>> >
>> >Of course, the intake fans for the GPUs (save bottom one) suck air right
>> >off the heat sink of the GPU below it. The GPUs are cleverly tapered
>> right
>> >where the intake fans face the heat sink, leaving a whopping 2 or so
>> >millimeters for air. On slide one, we installed a massive fan to ram
>> fresh
>> >air into the intakes (mod_1). Tests show that 3 GPUs heat up to 85 C +/-
>> 2
>> >(CVD=0,1,3) and 1 GPU to 76 C (CVD=2). Cooler Master R4-MFJR-07FK-R1
>> 200mm
>> >MegaFlow --$19 # cvd=cuda_visible_device
>> >
>> >On slide 3, you can see I ghetto-fabricated a cardboard box that ducts
>> air
>> >from a 120mm fan directly into the GPUs' intake-tapered section (mod_2).
>> >Tests show that CVD=0 hits 84 C, CDV=1 hits 83 C, CVD=2 hits 74 C, and
>> >CVD=3 hits 82 C. Benefit, the case has a very simple clip-on mount for
>> >120mm. Downside, we needed that duct to realize benefit. We yanked a fan
>> >from the top of the case that was needlessly serving the CPU.
>> >
>> >
>> >HTH,
>> >kevin
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:48 PM, ET <sketchfoot.gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks for the further info Ross! :)
>> >>
>> >> Decided in the end to go for a Asus P8Z77 WS board with a Intel i7
>> >>3770K.
>> >> Slightly overkill, but needed to proof it in the event of resale or
>> >>finding
>> >> another use for it.
>> >>
>> >> br,
>> >> g
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 25 June 2013 03:44, <deeptinayar.gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from !DEA
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: ET <sketchfoot.gmail.com>
>> >> > Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 20:45:20
>> >> > To: AMBER Mailing List<amber.ambermd.org>
>> >> > Reply-To: AMBER Mailing List <amber.ambermd.org>
>> >> > Subject: Re: [AMBER] Anyone running machines with Quad GPU setups
>> >> >
>> >> > Looks like the Asus P9X79-E WS is for you then Scott! :) Haven't
>> seen
>> >> many
>> >> > (if any!) boards with that anount of bandwidth so far.
>> >> >
>> >> > br,
>> >> > g
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 22 June 2013 19:31, Scott Le Grand <varelse2005.gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > It may be overkill now but I'm planning to revisit the Multi GPU
>> >>code
>> >> in
>> >> > > the near future and that's why I need a motherboard that can really
>> >> take
>> >> > > advantage of it.
>> >> > > On Jun 22, 2013 10:12 AM, "ET" <sketchfoot.gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Hi,
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Thanks v much for you specs Divi. :) I've been debating with
>> >>myself
>> >> as
>> >> > my
>> >> > > > board as it looks good and has a very nice spec. From what I've
>> >>read,
>> >> > the
>> >> > > > only problems with it is the higher than average power draw.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > .Scott. I believe the board runs in x8/x8/x8/x8 for a 4 GPU
>> >>config -
>> >> so
>> >> > > > effectively PCI2 2.0 x16 rate. Would this present any problems,
>> >>if
>> >> you
>> >> > > > were running the serial GPU code, From what I read on the AMBER
>> >>GPU
>> >> > > > hardware page, this is more important for the parallel GPU code?
>> >> > Though,
>> >> > > I
>> >> > > > imagine having 4x serial ruins going simultaneously would also
>> tax
>> >> the
>> >> > > GPU
>> >> > > > to CPU interface, though how much I'm not sure.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Apparently, if you are going intel, you can only acheive PCIe 3.0
>> >> using
>> >> > > at
>> >> > > > least a Sandy Bridge-E or ivy bridge CPU in a socket 155. Please
>> >> > correct
>> >> > > me
>> >> > > > if I have understood this incorrectly though.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > http://www.enthusiastpc.net/articles/00003/3.aspx
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > A socket 2011 proposition would be the Asus P9X79-E WES which has
>> >>2x
>> >> > PLX
>> >> > > > PEX 8747 chips so can run at x16/x16/x16/x16 with four GPUs
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P9X79E_WS/#specifications
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > However, I'm unsure whether this is overkill for running 4xGPUs
>> >>doing
>> >> > > AMBER
>> >> > > > serial code.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > What do you guys think?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > br,
>> >> > > > g
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > On 22 June 2013 16:15, Scott Le Grand <varelse2005.gmail.com>
>> >>wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > > Does this MB support full p2p at 16x PCIE Gen 3 speeds between
>> >>all
>> >> 4
>> >> > > > GPUs?
>> >> > > > > On Jun 21, 2013 4:09 PM, "Divi/GMAIL" <dvenkatlu.gmail.com>
>> >>wrote:
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > ET:
>> >> > > > > > I am using GA-Z77X-UP7 that has PLX chipset and supports
>> >>3rd
>> >> Gen
>> >> > > > > LGA1155
>> >> > > > > > socket. Bought together with 2 TITANS sometime in March.
>> >> > > > > > It has been running pretty stable 24/7 since then. I
>> >>thought
>> >> of
>> >> > > > buying
>> >> > > > > > two more titans later to fill all four slots. With so much
>> >>mess
>> >> > > going
>> >> > > > on
>> >> > > > > > with TITANS, I put off that plan until the dust settles. You
>> >> might
>> >> > > > want
>> >> > > > > to
>> >> > > > > > check new 4th GEN cpus and supporting motherboards as the
>> >> Hardware
>> >> > > keep
>> >> > > > > > changing pretty rapidly these days.
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > I have i5-processor with 16 GB ram and 256 GB SSD. All
>> >>four
>> >> > PCI-E
>> >> > > > > lanes
>> >> > > > > > are X-16. It also has native X-16 link directly "hardwired"
>> to
>> >> > > > CPU-lanes
>> >> > > > > > that will bypass PLX chipset, in case if you run single GPU.
>> >>This
>> >> > > might
>> >> > > > > > reduce a bit of latency but not much. I get 35ns/day on
>> >>FIX/NVE
>> >> > > > benchmark
>> >> > > > > > bypassing PLX chipset, but get about 34ns/day using PLX
>> >>chipset
>> >> (on
>> >> > > > TITAN
>> >> > > > > > of
>> >> > > > > > course!!). Not a deal breaker..
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > Link below:
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > >
>> >>http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4334#ov
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > HTH
>> >> > > > > > Divi
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > > > > From: ET
>> >> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:18 PM
>> >> > > > > > To: AMBER Mailing List
>> >> > > > > > Subject: [AMBER] Anyone running machines with Quad GPU setups
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > Hi all,
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > I was looking at getting a new mobo to run a quad GPU system.
>> >>I
>> >> was
>> >> > > > > > wondering if anyone has done this. If you could post the
>> >>model &
>> >> > make
>> >> > > > of:
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > 1) motherboard
>> >> > > > > > 2) CPU
>> >> > > > > > 3) RAM
>> >> > > > > > 4) Case
>> >> > > > > > 5) The aggregate estimate of ns in simulation you have run on
>> >> your
>> >> > > > setup
>> >> > > > > > without issue,
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > I would be much obliged! :)
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > br,
>> >> > > > > > g
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