~6% faster than K20x - sounds good to me...
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Jonathan Gough
<jonathan.d.gough.gmail.com>wrote:
> Scott, looks like your spot on.
>
> Here is what I have in terms of timings for GTX 780:
>
> These are the timings over 100000 steps.
>
>
> Cellulose_production_NPT/1/mdout-| ns/day = 5.15
> seconds/ns = 16774.62
> --
> Cellulose_production_NVE/1/mdout-| ns/day = 6.27
> seconds/ns = 13782.52
> --
> FactorIX_production_NPT/1/mdout-| ns/day = 23.85
> seconds/ns = 3622.01
> --
> FactorIX_production_NVE/1/mdout-| ns/day = 29.34
> seconds/ns = 2944.75
> --
> JAC_production_NPT/1/mdout-| ns/day = 74.07 seconds/ns =
> 1166.51
> --
> JAC_production_NVE/1/mdout-| ns/day = 94.18 seconds/ns =
> 917.36
>
>
> Here is what I have in terms of timings for the aberrant Titan:
>
> These are the timings over 100000 steps.
>
> Cellulose_production_NPT/1/mdinfo:| ns/day = 5.85
> seconds/ns = 14778.23
>
> Cellulose_production_NVE/1/mdinfo:| ns/day = 7.20
> seconds/ns = 11996.83
>
> FactorIX_production_NPT/1/mdinfo:| ns/day = 23.85
> seconds/ns = 3621.99
>
> FactorIX_production_NVE/1/mdinfo:| ns/day = 29.34
> seconds/ns = 2944.74
>
> JAC_production_NPT/1/mdinfo-| ns/day = 87.71 seconds/ns =
> 985.09
>
> JAC_production_NVE/1/mdinfo-| ns/day = 110.40 seconds/ns =
> 782.60
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 4:34 PM, filip fratev <filipfratev.yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > How fast is GTX780 in comparison to GTX Titan? Can you please post some
> > results from JAC and Factor IX?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Filip
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Jonathan Gough <jonathan.d.gough.gmail.com>
> > To: AMBER Mailing List <amber.ambermd.org>
> > Sent: Friday, June 7, 2013 10:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AMBER] experiences with EVGA GTX TITAN Superclocked -
> > memtestG80 - UNDERclocking in Linux ?
> >
> >
> > Good News (maybe)
> >
> > 1. The nucleosome calculations were reproducible at nstlim=100000
> > 2. My new GTX 780 seems to be stable See results below
> >
> > CentOs 6
> > gnu compilers
> > Cuda 5.0 and Driver Version: 319.23
> > AmberTools version 13.09
> > Amber version 12.18
> >
> > EVGA 06G-P4-2793-KR GeForce GTX TITAN
> > GB-Nucleosome
> > nucleosome/1/mdout: Etot = -66858.7444 EKtot = 19709.4492
> > EPtot = -86568.1936
> > nucleosome/2/mdout: Etot = -66858.7444 EKtot = 19709.4492
> > EPtot = -86568.1936
> > nucleosome/3/mdout: Etot = -66858.7444 EKtot = 19709.4492
> > EPtot = -86568.1936
> > nucleosome/4/mdout: Etot = -66858.7444 EKtot = 19709.4492
> > EPtot = -86568.1936
> >
> >
> > FWIW: Here is data for GTX 780
> > EVGA 03G-P4-2781-KR GeForce GTX 780
> > Ran each of the tests at nstlim=100000 4x
> >
> > Not that I know if there was an issue, but paranoia has set in, and I
> felt
> > the need to be comprehensive
> > Everything is looking reproducible.
> >
> > JAC_production_NPT/1/mdout: Etot = -58221.1921 EKtot =
> > 14415.7754 EPtot = -72636.9675
> > JAC_production_NPT/2/mdout: Etot = -58221.1921 EKtot =
> > 14415.7754 EPtot = -72636.9675
> > JAC_production_NPT/3/mdout: Etot = -58221.1921 EKtot =
> > 14415.7754 EPtot = -72636.9675
> > JAC_production_NPT/4/mdout: Etot = -58221.1921 EKtot =
> > 14415.7754 EPtot = -72636.9675
> >
> > JAC_production_NVE/1/mdout: Etot = -58139.8773 EKtot =
> > 14266.4307 EPtot = -72406.3079
> > JAC_production_NVE/2/mdout: Etot = -58139.8773 EKtot =
> > 14266.4307 EPtot = -72406.3079
> > JAC_production_NVE/3/mdout: Etot = -58139.8773 EKtot =
> > 14266.4307 EPtot = -72406.3079
> > JAC_production_NVE/4/mdout: Etot = -58139.8773 EKtot =
> > 14266.4307 EPtot = -72406.3079
> >
> > FactorIX_production_NVE/1/mdout: Etot = -234189.5802 EKtot =
> > 54845.8359 EPtot = -289035.4162
> > FactorIX_production_NVE/2/mdout: Etot = -234189.5802 EKtot =
> > 54845.8359 EPtot = -289035.4162
> > FactorIX_production_NVE/3/mdout: Etot = -234189.5802 EKtot =
> > 54845.8359 EPtot = -289035.4162
> > FactorIX_production_NVE/4/mdout: Etot = -234189.5802 EKtot =
> > 54845.8359 EPtot = -289035.4162
> >
> > FactorIX_production_NPT/1/mdout: Etot = -234493.4304 EKtot =
> > 55062.0156 EPtot = -289555.4460
> > FactorIX_production_NPT/2/mdout: Etot = -234493.4304 EKtot =
> > 55062.0156 EPtot = -289555.4460
> > FactorIX_production_NPT/3/mdout: Etot = -234493.4304 EKtot =
> > 55062.0156 EPtot = -289555.4460
> > FactorIX_production_NPT/4/mdout: Etot = -234493.4304 EKtot =
> > 55062.0156 EPtot = -289555.4460
> >
> >
> > Cellulose_production_NPT/1/mdout: Etot = -441074.6000 EKtot =
> > 258388.7500 EPtot = -699463.3500
> > Cellulose_production_NPT/2/mdout: Etot = -441074.6000 EKtot =
> > 258388.7500 EPtot = -699463.3500
> > Cellulose_production_NPT/3/mdout:* *Etot = -441074.6000 EKtot =
> > 258388.7500 EPtot = -699463.3500
> > Cellulose_production_NPT/4/mdout: Etot = -441074.6000 EKtot =
> > 258388.7500 EPtot = -699463.3500
> >
> >
> > Cellulose_production_NVE/1/mdout: Etot = -443246.3519 EKtot =
> > 258074.3125 EPtot = -701320.6644
> > Cellulose_production_NVE/2/mdout: Etot = -443246.3519 EKtot =
> > 258074.3125 EPtot = -701320.6644
> > Cellulose_production_NVE/3/mdout: Etot = -443246.3519 EKtot =
> > 258074.3125 EPtot = -701320.6644
> > Cellulose_production_NVE/4/mdout: Etot = -443246.3519 EKtot =
> > 258074.3125 EPtot = -701320.6644
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Marek Maly <marek.maly.ujep.cz> wrote:
> >
> > > OK, let us know your NUCLEOSOME results (this test will take some time
> > > ...).
> > >
> > > M.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dne Thu, 06 Jun 2013 16:37:03 +0200 Jonathan Gough
> > > <jonathan.d.gough.gmail.com> napsal/-a:
> > >
> > > > I have the:
> > > > EVGA 06G-P4-2793-KR GeForce GTX TITAN SuperClocked Signature 6GB
> > 384-bit
> > > > GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP, SLI Ready Video Card
> > > >
> > > > and the previously posted results were with bugfix 18. Checking GB
> > > > nucleosome now
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Marek Maly <marek.maly.ujep.cz>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Welcome in the club :))
> > > >>
> > > >> First of all do not panic. Scott recently identified and reported
> > > >> some cuFFT "bug" in connection with Titans and sent it to NVIDIA,
> > > >> now we have to wait what the NVIDIA experts answer. There is also
> > > >> another
> > > >> Amber/Titan issue
> > > >> which has some another origin (GB of big systems i.e. NUCLEOSOME)
> you
> > > >> may
> > > >> try it
> > > >> as well. Amber guys are working perhaps also on that.
> > > >>
> > > >> So on your place I would wait with RMAing unless you have any other
> > > >> indications
> > > >> that your GPU might me damaged. In between you may do some tests of
> > this
> > > >> GPU with memtestG80.
> > > >>
> > > >> here is the most recent version:
> > > >>
> > > >> ---
> > > >> memtestG80
> > > >> https://github.com/ihaque/memtestG80
> > > >> here is the sync fix code
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/ihaque/memtestG80/commit/c4336a69fff07945c322d6c7fc40b0b12341cc4c
> > > >> ---
> > > >>
> > > >> BTW which Titan GPU are you using the stock one or the superclocked
> > one
> > > >> ?
> > > >>
> > > >> Anyway I would recommend you to recompile Amber with the latests
> > > >> Amber 12 patch (bugfix 18) if you did not do it.
> > > >>
> > > >> M.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Dne Thu, 06 Jun 2013 12:01:35 +0200 Jonathan Gough
> > > >> <jonathan.d.gough.gmail.com> napsal/-a:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Bad News.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I ran each set of tests 4 times, nstlim=100000. FactorIX was the
> > only
> > > >> one
> > > >> > that gave consistent results. Again I had a few that just died
> > without
> > > >> > any
> > > >> > error messages.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > CentOs 6
> > > >> > gnu compilers
> > > >> > Cuda 5.0 and Driver Version: 319.23
> > > >> > AmberTools version 13.09
> > > >> > Amber version 12.18
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Cellulose_production_NVE/1/mdout: Etot = -443246.3206 EKtot
> > =
> > > >> > 258074.3438 EPtot = -701320.6644
> > > >> > Cellulose_production_NVE/2/mdout Died at 4000 steps - no error
> > > >> message.
> > > >> > Cellulose_production_NVE/3/mdout: Etot = -443238.0345 EKtot
> =
> > > >> > 257651.0625 EPtot = -700889.0970
> > > >> > Cellulose_production_NVE/4/mdout: Etot = -443246.3206 EKtot
> =
> > > >> > 258074.3438 EPtot = -701320.6644
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Cellulose_production_NPT/1/mdout: Etot = -441009.1612 EKtot
> =
> > > >> > 257571.2031 EPtot = -698580.3643
> > > >> > Cellulose_production_NPT/2/mdout: Etot = -440947.3717 EKtot
> =
> > > >> > 257723.3750 EPtot = -698670.7467
> > > >> > Cellulose_production_NPT/3/mdout: Etot = -441024.3259 EKtot
> =
> > > >> > 257406.5781 EPtot = -698430.9041
> > > >> > Cellulose_production_NPT/4/mdout: Etot = -440970.6005 EKtot
> =
> > > >> > 257756.1250 EPtot = -698726.7255
> > > >> >
> > > >> > FactorIX_production_NVE/1/mdout: Etot = -234189.5802 EKtot
> =
> > > >> > 54845.8359 EPtot = -289035.4162
> > > >> > FactorIX_production_NVE/2/mdout: Etot = -234189.5802 EKtot
> =
> > > >> > 54845.8359 EPtot = -289035.4162
> > > >> > FactorIX_production_NVE/3/mdout: Etot = -234189.5802 EKtot
> =
> > > >> > 54845.8359 EPtot = -289035.4162
> > > >> > FactorIX_production_NVE/4/mdout: Etot = -234189.5802 EKtot
> =
> > > >> > 54845.8359 EPtot = -289035.4162
> > > >> >
> > > >> > FactorIX_production_NPT/1/mdout: Etot = -234493.4304 EKtot
> =
> > > >> > 55062.0156 EPtot = -289555.4460
> > > >> > FactorIX_production_NPT/2/mdout: Etot = -234493.4304 EKtot
> =
> > > >> > 55062.0156 EPtot = -289555.4460
> > > >> > FactorIX_production_NPT/3/mdout: Etot = -234493.4304 EKtot
> =
> > > >> > 55062.0156 EPtot = -289555.4460
> > > >> > FactorIX_production_NPT/4/mdout: Etot = -234493.4304 EKtot
> =
> > > >> > 55062.0156 EPtot = -289555.4460
> > > >> >
> > > >> > JAC_production_NVE/1/mdout: Etot = -58141.0647 EKtot =
> > > >> > 14347.6699 EPtot = -72488.7346
> > > >> > JAC_production_NVE/2/mdout: Etot = -58141.4961 EKtot =
> > > >> > 14320.1465 EPtot = -72461.6425
> > > >> > JAC_production_NVE/3/mdout: Died at 48000 steps
> > > >> > JAC_production_NVE/4/mdout: Etot = -58141.6938 EKtot =
> > > >> > 14257.2305 EPtot = -72398.9243
> > > >> >
> > > >> > JAC_production_NPT/1/mdout: Died at 78000 steps
> > > >> > JAC_production_NPT/2/mdout: Etot = -58206.6103 EKtot =
> > > >> > 14384.7959 EPtot = -72591.4062
> > > >> > JAC_production_NPT/3/mdout: Etot = -58211.2469 EKtot =
> > > >> > 14454.1592 EPtot = -72665.4061
> > > >> > JAC_production_NPT/1/mdout: Died at 89000 steps
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Any recommendations on what to do? Send the card back? Update
> > drivers?
> > > >> > Update Cuda?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Marek Maly <marek.maly.ujep.cz>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Yes you got it,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> one more thing. Check carefully the benchmark mdin files and
> > > >> >> if you see there "ig=-1" just delete this, to ensure, that
> > > >> >> both runs of the given test will run using the same random seed.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> (As I remember I found it just in one or two tests, don't
> remember
> > > >> which
> > > >> >> one).
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Let us know your results i.e. if all the tests (JAC NVE/NPT,
> > > >> FACTOR_IX
> > > >> >> NVE/NPT etc.)
> > > >> >> successfully finished all 100K steps (in both runs) and if
> moreover
> > > >> the
> > > >> >> results from both runs
> > > >> >> are identical (just check the final energy).
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> In case of any error (writen in mdout file or in standard output
> > > >> (screen
> > > >> >> or nohup.out ...) ), please report it here as well.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Thanks,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> M.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Dne Thu, 06 Jun 2013 00:34:39 +0200 Jonathan Gough
> > > >> >> <jonathan.d.gough.gmail.com> napsal/-a:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > I know I'm late in the game, but I have been reading some of
> > these
> > > >> two
> > > >> >> > Titan threads. I'm now attempting to test my 1 Titan card and
> I
> > > >> want
> > > >> >> to
> > > >> >> > make sure I understand what I aught to be doing.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Download the Amber_GPU_Benchmark_Suite
> > > >> >> > in mdin, change nstlim=100000
> > > >> >> > and then run the 6 benchmarks at least 2 times each
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > yes?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > The issue that we have had is that simulations would just
> > > >> prematurely
> > > >> >> > stop.
> > > >> >> > We didn't see any error messages in the mdout file though, they
> > > >> just
> > > >> >> > stopped.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Were using Cuda 5.0 and Driver Version: 319.23
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Marek Maly <marek.maly.ujep.cz
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> Hi Scott,
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> thanks for update ! Let's see what will be reaction from
> NVIDIA.
> > > >> >> >> In the worst case let's hope that also some other (NON-NVIDIA)
> > > >> "GPU
> > > >> >> FFT
> > > >> >> >> library"
> > > >> >> >> alternatives exists (to be compiled/used alternatively with
> > > >> >> pmemd.cuda)
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> BTW I just found this perhaps interesting article (I only list
> > the
> > > >> >> >> supplementary part. ):
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>
> > http://www.computer.org/csdl/trans/td/preprint/06470608-abs.html
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> OK, meanwhile I finished my experiment/tests with swapping my
> > two
> > > >> >> titans
> > > >> >> >> in slots. As you can see below it did not solve the problems
> on
> > my
> > > >> >> >> "less stable" titan, but on the other hand there is
> significant
> > > >> >> >> improvement.
> > > >> >> >> I will now try with just "my less stable" GPU plugged on
> > > >> >> motherboard to
> > > >> >> >> eventually confirm that it's less stability has origin in it's
> > > >> higher
> > > >> >> >> sensitivity
> > > >> >> >> to dual GPU configuration (OR just to dual GPU config with
> > another
> > > >> >> Titan
> > > >> >> >> maybe that
> > > >> >> >> with GTX 580/680 it will be OK or at least better than with 2
> > > >> >> Titans).
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> M.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> SIMULTANEOUS TEST (BOTH GPUS) running at the same time
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> density (100K steps, NPT, restrained solute)
> > > >> >> >> prod1 and prod2 (250K steps, NPT)
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> TITAN_0, TITAN_1 now rather identify PCI slots than given
> cards.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> all the errs I have obtained here is here just:
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> -----
> > > >> >> >> cudaMemcpy GpuBuffer::Download failed unspecified launch
> failure
> > > >> >> >> -----
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> #1 ORIGINAL CONFIGURATION
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> density prod1 prod2
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> TITAN_0
> > > >> >> >> -297755.2479 -299267.1086 65K
> > > >> >> >> 20K -299411.2631 100K
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> TITAN_1
> > > >> >> >> -297906.5447 -298657.3725 -298683.8965
> > > >> >> >> -297906.5447 -298657.3725 -298683.8965
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> #2 AFTER GPU SWAPPING (respect to PCI slots)
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> density prod1 prod2
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> TITAN_0 (so these are results of the GPU named before as
> > TITAN_1)
> > > >> >> >> -297906.5447 -298657.3725 -298683.8965
> > > >> >> >> -297906.5447 -298657.3725 -298683.8965
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> TITAN_1 (so these are results of the GPU named before as
> > TITAN_0)
> > > >> >> >> -297906.5447 240K -298764.5294
> > > >> >> >> -297752.2836 -298997.8891 -299610.3812
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> Dne Wed, 05 Jun 2013 18:15:48 +0200 Scott Le Grand
> > > >> >> >> <varelse2005.gmail.com>
> > > >> >> >> napsal/-a:
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > Filip,
> > > >> >> >> > What's happening on Titan can take a while to trigger. I
> have
> > > >> >> >> delivered
> > > >> >> >> > a
> > > >> >> >> > repro to NVIDIA that shows exactly what's happening but it's
> > up
> > > >> to
> > > >> >> >> them
> > > >> >> >> > to
> > > >> >> >> > explain why because its occurring inside cuFFT. That's why
> > you
> > > >> >> need
> > > >> >> >> to
> > > >> >> >> > run
> > > >> >> >> > at least 100K iterations to see a single occurrence.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > There's a second issue that's happening with large GB
> > > >> simulations,
> > > >> >> but
> > > >> >> >> > that
> > > >> >> >> > one is even harder to trap. That doesn't mean it isn't
> > > >> happening,
> > > >> >> >> just
> > > >> >> >> > that it's on the very edge of doing so on Titan.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Thankfully, I have not been able to trigger either bug on
> > GK104
> > > >> or
> > > >> >> >> K20...
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> > > >> > __________ Informace od ESET NOD32 Antivirus, verze databaze 8417
> > > >> > (20130606) __________
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Tuto zpravu proveril ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > http://www.eset.cz
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Tato zpráva byla vytvořena převratným poštovním klientem Opery:
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> > > >
> > > > __________ Informace od ESET NOD32 Antivirus, verze databaze 8418
> > > > (20130606) __________
> > > >
> > > > Tuto zpravu proveril ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.eset.cz
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tato zpráva byla vytvořena převratným poštovním klientem Opery:
> > > http://www.opera.com/mail/
> > >
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