Re: [AMBER] Several types of extra point charges in sander?

From: Jason Swails <jason.swails.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 08:50:06 +1000

Hello,

I know Dave C. has put a bit of effort into the extra points facility in mdgx, which is an alternative md engine in the AmberTools 12 suite. You can upgrade to AmberTools 12 for free, do it may be worth perusing that manual to see if mdgx has the functionality you require.

HTH,
Jason

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Jason Swails
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University of Florida
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On May 16, 2012, at 8:10 PM, Олег Титов <titovoi.qsar.chem.msu.ru> wrote:
> Hi, all.
> 
> Is it possible to create two types of extra point charges in AMBER?
> 
> I want to improve molecular electrostatics for a single molecule by
> adding atomic dipoles and quadrupoles. It is important for me to use
> GAFF in the same molecule where I put atomic multipoles, and, I guess,
> there is no way to use atomic dipoles and quadrupoles (as in AMOEBA)
> with GAFF (Correct me, please, if I'm wrong). To avoid this, I'm
> trying to simulate dipole and quadrupole with 2 extra point charges (+
> atomic charge). The problem is that these two extra points are
> different: one is "inside" R-X bond and the other is outside. I need
> different atom types to set different valent angles (0.0 for "inner"
> EP and 180 for "outer").
> 
> Amber manual states that extra points is "atoms with "EP" in their
> names". So, I see no problem in using EP as names for all extra points
> and creating 2 atom types (EP and LP or EP and ZP to avoid conflicts
> with ff99SB's LP) for different positions.
> 
> When I have only one EP in "outer" position, it is treated as EP and
> everything works fine.
> 
> Next, I want 2 different EPs.
> I use frcmod ANGL section like this to have different EP positions:
> ANGL
> XX-br-LP    150.0     180.00
> XX-br-EP    150.0       0.00
> Both EP and LP atoms have "EP" as their atom names, but tleap seems to
> recognize extra point only in EP and asks for angle parameters for
> ca-br-LP and EP-br-LP. Ok, I add these parameters and get my prmtop
> and prmcrd. Minimization in sander.MPI runs fine, but during it these
> extra points are moved from their initial positions, so one is located
> as "outer" extra point and the other's bond is perpendicular to R-X
> bond (but bond angle should be 0.0 acccording to frcmod). Moreover,
> during MD run both extra points are not kept in their ideal geometry .
> "Outer" extra point seems to be fixed in space and bromine atom
> oscillates somewhere nearby. "Inner" extra point spins around bromine
> atom. May be interesting to note this fact: when I set ideal extra
> point bond length to 0.1 Ang (to have "point" multipoles) sander
> crashes with segfault somewhere in the end of the first MD iteration,
> and when bond length is set to 0.5 Ang it seems to work fine, except
> extra points are not treated as extra points.
> 
> Can anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong? Is it possible to have two
> types of extra points in sander?
> 
> With Best Regards,
> Oleg.
> 
> 
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