Your previous runs without shake were ok because you used 0.5fs time step
and at 50K. For production runs, the typical time step is 1-2fs and
temperature is typically at 300K. When you change to dt=1fs, temp0=300K,
the system would crash almost immediately with NTC=1.
Now, I lost track of what you've done and can no longer make any further
suggestions.
--
Yong Duan, Ph.D, Professor
UC Davis Genome Center and
Department of Biomedical Engineering
University of California at Davis
Davis, CA 95616
530-754-7632
On 12/6/11 11:27 AM, "kirtana S" <skirtana4.gmail.com> wrote:
>I did enenrgy minimization again because my previous run on constant
>volume
>for 100ps were all using ntc=1 ntf=1 and yesterday your message asked me
>to
>change this with use of shake (ntc=2, ntf=2)
>due to the presence of TIP3P water models.I was mistaken in understand thi
>was only for the next steps of MD I interpreted this was for the constnat
>volume equilibration
>
>I am thankful for your suggestions and want to follow them , I changed
>thread to avoid complications in following this up .
>I did energy minimization now again without using shake (realising the
>linmin failures) and then submitted for warming the system (for 70000
>steps
>with time step of 0.5 fs) to 50K.
>
>While heating the ssytem experience sudden rise . Previous runs with
>noshake was running alright whereas gave me problems when I tried with
>ntc=2 ntf=2 so I change all initial files
>
>The input file
>
> heat/dynamics at constant volume
> &cntrl
> imin=0,
> ntxo=1, ntrx=1,
> cut=10.0,tempi=0.1,
> ntpr=500, ntwx=500, ntwe=500,
> nstlim=70000, temp0=50.0,
> dt=0.0005,
> ntc=2, ntf=2, tol=0.0000001,
> ntx=1, irest=0,
> ntb=1,tautp=2,
> ntt=1,
> nmropt=1,ntr=1
> /
> &wt
> type='TEMP0', istep1=0,istep2=70000,value1=0.0, value2=50.0,
> /
> &wt type='END',
> /
>GROUP FOR CONSTRAINTS
> 1.0
>RES 1 336
>END
>END
>
>The output is as below
>
> NSTEP = 0 TIME(PS) = 0.000 TEMP(K) = 0.12 PRESS =
>0.0
> Etot = -131735.4984 EKtot = 6.8292 EPtot =
>-131742.3276
> BOND = 45.8203 ANGLE = 1336.2952 DIHED =
>398.4060
> 1-4 NB = 288.7849 1-4 EEL = 7155.9672 VDWAALS =
>22723.1972
> EELEC = -163690.7984 EHBOND = 0.0000 RESTRAINT =
>0.0000
> Ewald error estimate: 0.1507E-05
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>----
>
> NMR restraints: Bond = 0.000 Angle = 0.000 Torsion = 0.000
>==========================================================================
>=====
>
> NSTEP = 500 TIME(PS) = 0.250 TEMP(K) = 113.22 PRESS =
>0.0
> Etot = -88875.0006 EKtot = 6625.2647 EPtot =
>-95500.2653
> BOND = 60.0946 ANGLE = 1380.3103 DIHED =
>437.6682
> 1-4 NB = 293.3695 1-4 EEL = 7165.5473 VDWAALS =
>16386.6812
> EELEC = -121314.9083 EHBOND = 0.0000 RESTRAINT =
>90.9720
> EAMBER (non-restraint) = -95591.2373
> Ewald error estimate: 0.5773E-04
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>----
>
> NMR restraints: Bond = 0.000 Angle = 0.000 Torsion = 0.000
>==========================================================================
>=====
>
> NSTEP = 1000 TIME(PS) = 0.500 TEMP(K) = 237.67 PRESS =
>0.0
> Etot = -73943.6039 EKtot = 13908.2480 EPtot =
>-87851.8519
> BOND = 114.9807 ANGLE = 1574.0233 DIHED =
>610.6214
> 1-4 NB = 311.8003 1-4 EEL = 7180.5394 VDWAALS =
>14639.1175
> EELEC = -113170.4726 EHBOND = 0.0000 RESTRAINT =
>887.5381
> EAMBER (non-restraint) = -88739.3900
> Ewald error estimate: 0.1201E-04
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>----
>
> NMR restraints: Bond = 0.000 Angle = 0.000 Torsion = 0.000
>==========================================================================
>=====
>
>
>I tried changing tautp=0.2 and also removed restraits with nscm=20 , still
>there are issues . Can you suggest something on this.
>
>Thanks
>Kirtana
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Yong Duan <duan.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>
>>
>> The ntc=2 was for MD only, not for energy minimization. There is really
>>no
>> need for energy minimization after you start MD for 100 ps. If you
>>indeed
>> need to perform energy minimization, we can deal with it later.
>>
>> Please let me know if you do not want to follow my suggestions. I'd be
>> happy to stop. Just in case you still want to try to follow my
>> suggestions, please do exactly what I said, continue the MD for 100 ps
>> with the exactly the input I told you earlier. It is hard to find out
>>what
>> went wrong when you change the input parameters.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yong Duan, Ph.D, Professor
>> UC Davis Genome Center and
>> Department of Biomedical Engineering
>> University of California at Davis
>> Davis, CA 95616
>> 530-754-7632
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/6/11 9:50 AM, "kirtana S" <skirtana4.gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Dear All,
>> >
>> >When I heat up the simulation box using the following input file after
>> >minimization using (ntc=2 ntf=2 as recommended for TIP3P water models),
>> >below are the input files and output files any suggestions are highly
>> >appreciated.
>> >minimization of water or solvent molecules
>> >&cntrl
>> > imin=1,
>> > ntb=1,
>> > cut=10.0,ntc=2,ntf=2,
>> > maxcyc=10000, ncyc=1000,
>> > ntt=0,
>> >&end
>> >
>> >
>> > heat/dynamics at constant volume
>> > &cntrl
>> > imin=0,
>> > ntxo=1, ntrx=1,
>> > cut=10.0,tempi=0.1,
>> > ntpr=500, ntwx=500, ntwe=500,
>> > nstlim=70000, temp0=50.0,
>> > dt=0.0005,
>> > ntc=2, ntf=2, tol=0.0000001,
>> > ntx=1, irest=0,
>> > ntb=1,tautp=1,
>> > ntt=1,
>> > nmropt=1,ntr=1
>> > /
>> > &wt
>> > type='TEMP0', istep1=0,istep2=70000,value1=0.0, value2=50.0,
>> > /
>> > &wt type='END',
>> > /
>> >GROUP FOR CONSTRAINTS
>> > 1.0
>> >RES 1 336
>> >END
>> >END
>> >
>> >
>> >The end of output file of minimization run as below
>> >
>> >(restarts due to linmin failure), when I visualize there are no
>> >distortions
>> >
>> > NSTEP ENERGY RMS GMAX NAME
>>NUMBER
>> > 2600 -6.7523E+04 8.3420E+00 3.2510E+01 O
>>13912
>> >
>> > BOND = 152.6560 ANGLE = 1964.1433 DIHED =
>> >1373.5294
>> > VDWAALS = 5460.4290 EEL = -83974.9686 HBOND =
>> > 0.0000
>> > 1-4 VDW = 446.5435 1-4 EEL = 7054.7245 RESTRAINT =
>> > 0.0000
>> >
>> >
>> > NSTEP ENERGY RMS GMAX NAME
>>NUMBER
>> > 2650 -6.7523E+04 8.3420E+00 3.2510E+01 O
>>13912
>> >
>> > BOND = 152.6559 ANGLE = 1964.1432 DIHED =
>> >1373.5293
>> > VDWAALS = 5460.4299 EEL = -83974.9676 HBOND =
>> > 0.0000
>> > 1-4 VDW = 446.5434 1-4 EEL = 7054.7247 RESTRAINT =
>> > 0.0000
>> >
>> >
>> > NSTEP ENERGY RMS GMAX NAME
>>NUMBER
>> > 2700 -6.7523E+04 8.3420E+00 3.2510E+01 O
>>13912
>> >
>> > BOND = 152.6548 ANGLE = 1964.1401 DIHED =
>> >1373.5274
>> > VDWAALS = 5460.4165 EEL = -83974.9495 HBOND =
>> > 0.0000
>> > 1-4 VDW = 446.5427 1-4 EEL = 7054.7239 RESTRAINT =
>> > 0.0000
>> >
>> >
>> > NSTEP ENERGY RMS GMAX NAME
>>NUMBER
>> > 2750 -6.7523E+04 8.3420E+00 3.2510E+01 O
>>13912
>> >
>> > BOND = 152.6537 ANGLE = 1964.1379 DIHED =
>> >1373.5260
>> > VDWAALS = 5460.4066 EEL = -83974.9334 HBOND =
>> > 0.0000
>> > 1-4 VDW = 446.5420 1-4 EEL = 7054.7236 RESTRAINT =
>> > 0.0000
>> >
>> >
>> > NSTEP ENERGY RMS GMAX NAME
>>NUMBER
>> > 2800 -6.7523E+04 8.3420E+00 3.2510E+01 O
>>13912
>> >
>> > BOND = 152.6525 ANGLE = 1964.1346 DIHED =
>> >1373.5240
>> > VDWAALS = 5460.3908 EEL = -83974.9113 HBOND =
>> > 0.0000
>> > 1-4 VDW = 446.5412 1-4 EEL = 7054.7228 RESTRAINT =
>> > 0.0000
>> >
>> > ... RESTARTED DUE TO LINMIN FAILURE ...
>> >
>> > ***** REPEATED LINMIN FAILURE *****
>> >
>> > ***** SEE http://ambermd.org/Questions/linmin.html FOR MORE INFO
>> >*****
>> >
>> >
>> > FINAL RESULTS
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > NSTEP ENERGY RMS GMAX NAME
>>NUMBER
>> > 2849 -6.7523E+04 8.3420E+00 3.2510E+01 O
>>13912
>> >
>> > BOND = 152.6526 ANGLE = 1964.1344 DIHED =
>> >1373.5239
>> > VDWAALS = 5460.3923 EEL = -83974.9102 HBOND =
>> > 0.0000
>> > 1-4 VDW = 446.5411 1-4 EEL = 7054.7227 RESTRAINT =
>> > 0.0000
>> >
>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>--
>> >------
>> > 5. TIMINGS
>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>--
>> >------
>> >
>> >
>> >When I heat the system there is sudden temperature rise and there is
>>job
>> >failure
>> >
>> > 4. RESULTS
>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>--
>> >------
>> >
>> >| # of SOLUTE degrees of freedom (RNDFP): 58896.
>> >| # of SOLVENT degrees of freedom (RNDFS): 0.
>> >| NDFMIN = 58896. NUM_NOSHAKE = 0 CORRECTED RNDFP =
>> >58896.
>> >| TOTAL # of degrees of freedom (RNDF) = 58896.
>> > ---------------------------------------------------
>> > APPROXIMATING switch and d/dx switch using CUBIC SPLINE INTERPOLATION
>> > using 5000.0 points per unit in tabled values
>> > TESTING RELATIVE ERROR over r ranging from 0.0 to cutoff
>> >| CHECK switch(x): max rel err = 0.2738E-14 at 2.422500
>> >| CHECK d/dx switch(x): max rel err = 0.8314E-11 at 2.736960
>> > ---------------------------------------------------
>> >| Local SIZE OF NONBOND LIST = 542540
>> >| TOTAL SIZE OF NONBOND LIST = 3363880
>> >
>> > NSTEP = 0 TIME(PS) = 0.000 TEMP(K) = 0.12 PRESS =
>> >0.0
>> > Etot = -67516.1138 EKtot = 6.8292 EPtot =
>> > -67522.9430
>> > BOND = 152.6526 ANGLE = 1964.1344 DIHED =
>> > 1373.5239
>> > 1-4 NB = 446.5411 1-4 EEL = 7054.7227 VDWAALS =
>> > 5460.3924
>> > EELEC = -83974.9102 EHBOND = 0.0000 RESTRAINT =
>> >0.0000
>> > Ewald error estimate: 0.1430E-04
>> >
>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>--
>> >----
>> >
>> > NMR restraints: Bond = 0.000 Angle = 0.000 Torsion =
>>0.000
>>
>>>========================================================================
>>>==
>> >=====
>> >
>> > NSTEP = 500 TIME(PS) = 0.250 TEMP(K) = 390.88 PRESS =
>> >0.0
>> > Etot = -43652.3272 EKtot = 22873.9328 EPtot =
>> > -66526.2600
>> > BOND = 121.3939 ANGLE = 1830.2706 DIHED =
>> >358.2286
>> > 1-4 NB = 317.7664 1-4 EEL = 7130.6186 VDWAALS =
>> >12348.3728
>> > EELEC = -90162.0935 EHBOND = 0.0000 RESTRAINT =
>> > 1529.1826
>> > EAMBER (non-restraint) = -68055.4426
>> > Ewald error estimate: 0.3642E-03
>> >
>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>--
>> >----
>> >
>> > NMR restraints: Bond = 0.000 Angle = 0.000 Torsion =
>>0.000
>>
>>>========================================================================
>>>==
>> >=====
>> >
>> >
>> >Thanks
>> >Kirtana
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