[AMBER] Re: Antechamber: imidazole=aromatic, imidazolium=not aromatic?

From: Gabriel Rocklin <gabriel.rocklin.ucsf.edu>
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:21:45 -0800

Hi Junmei,

Just wondering how the Antechamber fix is going, and if you've learned
anything now about the scope of the problem.

Thanks,
Gabriel

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Gabriel Rocklin
<gabriel.rocklin.ucsf.edu>wrote:

> Thanks Junmei. The parameters do more than maintain the planar
> conformation of the ring - they keep the ring substituents in plane with the
> rest of the ring. I'm not actually interested in imidazole and imidazolium
> themselves, but in their substituted versions, and binding free energies
> appear to change significantly when the ring substituents are allowed to
> bend when in protein complexes.
>
> Hope to hear from you by Monday.
>
> Gabriel
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Junmei Wang <
> Junmei.Wang.utsouthwestern.edu> wrote:
>
>> Dear Gabriel,
>> I will fix this no later than next Monday. Did you observe bizarre
>> behavior of gaff for imidazolium? It is true that the torsional angle
>> parameter of X-c2-na-X (2.5) is weaker than X-cc-na-X (6.8), but those
>> parameters are simply used to maintain the planar conformation of the ring.
>> The minimization or MD results of the two set of parameters should be very
>> similar anyway.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Junmei
>>
>> >>> Gabriel Rocklin <gabriel.rocklin.ucsf.edu> 02/10/10 12:56 AM >>>
>> Dear Junmei,
>>
>> Do you have an estimate on how long that will take? I'd like to know
>> whether I should try to develop a workaround, or whether I can wait for
>> you.
>> Also, it would be good to know what the scope of the problem is as soon
>> as
>> you've identified it, even if you haven't yet designed a fix.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gabriel
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Junmei Wang
>> <Junmei.Wang.utsouthwestern.edu>wrote:
>>
>> > Dear Gabriel
>> > I got the same result as yours. It is not a correct antechamber
>> behavior. I
>> > will fix this bug as soon as possible. Thank you very much for reporting
>> > this problem
>> >
>> > I really appreciate your great help
>> >
>> > Junmei
>> >
>> >
>> > >>> Gabriel Rocklin <gabriel.rocklin.ucsf.edu> 02/09/10 1:33 AM >>>
>> > Dear Junmei and others,
>> >
>> > I am getting strange results when trying to parameterize some
>> heterocyclic
>> > cations using antechamber. Using a mol2 file for imidazole, when I do-
>> >
>> > antechamber -i imidazole.mol2 -o imidazole_out.prepi -fi mol2 -fo prepi
>> >
>> > I get a prep file for imidazole that has ring atom types cc, cd, and na.
>> > But when I do the same thing for imidazolium, I get atom types c2 and
>> na.
>> > Because GAFF c2 is not aromatic, the dihedral parameters about the ring
>> > become significantly weaker. The protonation should not affect the
>> > aromaticity like this, correct? I see the same thing
>> > for constitutively charged, n-substituted imidazoliums, as well as for
>> > thiazoles vs thiazoliums.
>> >
>> > Is this the correct antechamber / GAFF behavior? If so, why?
>> >
>> > I've attached the input and output files.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Gabriel
>> >
>> > Gabriel Rocklin
>> > UCSF Shoichet/Dill Labs
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
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