Hi,
The error you show is most probably related to the diffusion problem: the QM
zone is becoming too big. This diffusion is actually natural. The only way
to avoid it, for now, is to impose restraints to the QM water molecules, but
I have no idea what effect this will have in the end.
About the DFTB convergence, well... This is not an "Amber" problem:
convergence difficulties are well known in the DFTB users community. In
Amber 10, there is a way to improve DFTB convergence, but is not guaranteed
to work: Amber 10 has a new namelist keyword, 'dftb_telec', which sets an
'electronic temperature', which improves convergence. Notice that you do
*not* want to give it a very high number. Usually, 'dftb_telec=100' does
solve the problem, and higher numbers don't seem to make much difference.
You definitely don't want it to be higher than your system temperature.
HTH,
Gustavo.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-amber.scripps.edu 
> [mailto:owner-amber.scripps.edu] On Behalf Of M. L. Dodson
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 2:23 PM
> To: amber.scripps.edu
> Subject: AMBER: QMMM to follow reaction involving water
> 
> Hello Ambers,
> 
> I have been doing QMMM (using a development version of 
> Amber10 sander furnished by Ross Walker).  The basic design 
> is steered QMMM with the steered coordinate along a proposed 
> scissile C-N bond.  I have been having a lot of trouble with 
> this calculation when I incorporate close waters into the QM 
> region.  These problems seems to be of two kinds: (1) the QM 
> water(s) diffuse away from the enzyme active site, (2) the QM 
> calculation (SCC-DFTB w/o dispersion corrections) has great 
> difficulty achieving SCF.
> 
> I can understand (I think) the reasons for both of these problems.
> The diffusion problem is obvious, the SCF problem is probably 
> secondary to the diffusion, the waters are too far away from 
> the remainder of the QM region.
> 
> My question is whether anyone has suggestions to bypass these 
> issues?  (I already know I can restrain the waters, but I 
> have some questions in my mind about the shape of the 
> restraint.  These question involve the restraint distance and 
> the "steepness" of the parabolic restraint component.  I 
> don't want to bias the calculation whose whole purpose is to 
> reveal possible reaction
> pathways.)
> 
> I would appreciate any comments people might have.  I have 
> included the "in" file and the dist.RST file for my last run.
> It bombed with:
> 
>    ****************************************************
>    ERROR: QM region + cutoff larger than box dimension:
>    QM-MM Cutoff =   9.0000
>     Coord   Lower     Upper    Size    Box(a,b,c)
>       X   -27.285    46.641    73.926    73.802
>       Y    21.004    67.921    46.917    78.348
>       Z     9.986    54.744    44.758    70.532
>    ****************************************************
>   SANDER BOMB in subroutine QM_CHECK_PERIODIC<qm_mm.f>
>   QM region + cutoff larger than box
>   cannot continue, need larger box.
> 
> I think this is related to the diffusion problem.
> 
> Bud Dodson
> --
> M. L. Dodson
> Email:	mldodson-at-houston-dot-rr-dot-com
> Phone:	eight_three_two-56_three-386_one
> 
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