Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:26:49 -0600
(Mountain Daylight Time)
From: "Thomas E. Cheatham, III"
Subject: Re: periodic box
Date: Tue, 30 Jul
2002 22:18:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Thomas Cheatham
To: Jiyoung Heo
Subject: Re: periodic box
> I am trying to do
simulation with DNA dodecamer crystal structure. I
> want to use the periodic box which is given in the pdb file of
this
> crystal. The problem is that the bounding
box size of the model in one
Note that crystals in PDB files may
not contain the complete (symmetry
related) set of molecules that fill the
unit cell, i.e. sometimes it is
necessary to apply symmetry and build up the
full cell; assuming you do
this (or you downloaded a complete unit cell from
the nucleic acid
database), then various means can be applied to build the
complete
crystal...
It is a tricky process as it is not clear at the
outset how much
additional water (or ions) should be added. A discussion of
some of the
issues is presented in a paper by Bevan/Darden and co-workers in
Biophys.
J. 78, 668 (2000). In that paper, a careful equilibration protocol
was
applied where constant pressure MD was applied to relax the
initial
solvent/ion density and then water added/removed to reach a
reasonable
density and match the crystal unit cell dimensions.
If you
have too much water, you will greatly inhibit fluctuations; if too
little,
vacuum bubbles could crash into your structure and destroy it...
> direction is larger than the size of the crystal
cell.
> dimensions of the model: 32.763400
33.814293 49.569000
> (I have got from 'setbox
my_model' command)
> dimensions of crystal cell:
25.300 41.700 66.000
I do not understand the above. Why is your
model "bigger"? Did you add
additional water? Or is the initial size larger
(perhaps due to symmetry
in the DNA that isn't being enforced in your
crystal, i.e. if the duplex
is symmetric, the unit cell may be P2 and
represent only half the DNA?) or
is the alignment different in your PDB model
than what AMBER expects?
I will assume that you added extra solvent to
"build" it to some size.
Then it may be a question of alignment in that your
DNA may not be in the
same orientation in AMBER as the crystal expects. Make
sure that the
orientations are equivalent.
> I
tried the 'setbox' command with specified buff values. Of course,
in
> the x direction, the buffer value is
negative.
> However, the box size did not change
and it is still 32.763400 x
> 33.814293 x
49.569000.
>
> Is there any way to change
the size of the box as what I want?
> Some program
I am using recognizes the 'CRYST1' line in the pdb file and
> builds a crystal cell automatically. Does the amber have this
option?
AMBER does not have automatic options to understand
crystal symmetry. One
has a little more control in CHARMM, but even in CHARMM
is it not
straightforward to build a crystal.
I would suggest the
following:
(1) make sure you have a complete unit cell (or cells)
(2)
make sure the alignment is as expected (before adding additional water)
(3)
add water using the solvateBox with separate x,y,z directions,
changing each
x,y and z until the created box has the size you expect
(i.e. run LEaP
repeatedly with different x, y and z's until you find a set
that builds the
box size you'd like)
(4) carefully equilibrate (with DNA restrained or fixed)
to relax water
and then add/remove waters to get the size you want.
(5)
think about what ionic conditions are present and whether you need to
add
salt...
If you have questions on any aspect, let me know. Note that
there is an
undocumented feature of rdparm called "testwater" that will write
an old
style prmtop with a chosen number of waters based on a solvated
prmtop.
This can be used to create a prmtop with a particular number of
waters.
Then a PDB file can be edited (to remove/add waters) to match and
then
ptraj used to create a
restrt.
--tom